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[2bearcatdad]

Originally Posted by Bearcat_NTS

Or he will be the reason we lost. He was great for stretches against Rhode Island but also shot us right out of that game.

Advanced stats are only fair for Kyle on our team.

He leads the team in PER, but that's not a great stat imo. Favors offense too heavily, but it still favorable for Kyle that he leads the team.

However, he's 6th on the team in ORtg per 100 possessions; behind Gary, Jarron, Jacob, JJ & Troy. Also, he's 4th in Win Shares / 40 minutes behind Gary, Jarron & Jacob.

So, while he's our leader scorer, he's not our most important contributor by far.

The stats all say Gary is the most important contributor to the team - and it's not close. He ranks essentially at or near the top in nearly every offensive and defensive advanced stat.

[cincyguy13]

Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman

The last time UC went to the Sweet Sixteen they lost to Presbyterian, lost to STJ@ home scoring 55 and lost @USF scoring 45 points.

If they make a run, we would all love it and no one remember this game. Think most of us are worried about what we are seeing. Big picture, this loss doesn't make a big difference.

[2bearcatdad]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

Not even counting the end...Tre Scott just isn't ready to help a Top 20 team. Not sure if he ever really will be either.

Tre's advanced stats are likely better than you'd think.

He's essentially tied with Jarron & KJ for steals either per 40 minutes or per 100 possessions. Also, his rebounding rate is pretty close to Gary and Kyle - and much better than Brooks.

He actually leads the team in DRtg per 100 possessions. Also, he's 5th in Win Shares / 40 minutes behind Gary, Jarron, Jacob & Kyle.

He's certainly better defensively than he is offensively right now, but he's only a freshman. I don't know that he'll end up being a superstar, but he's already a solid contributor when he's in.

[juckerrules]

I wonder if North Carolina fans are crapping their drawers as much as Cincinnati fans....after all, their beloved Tar Heels just went on the road to Virginia & got whipped when they put a whopping 43 points on the board....for the whole game

Why can't they score on the road???

[TheLongHaul]

Originally Posted by juckerrules

I wonder if North Carolina fans are crapping their drawers as much as Cincinnati fans....after all, their beloved Tar Heels just went on the road to Virginia & got whipped when they put a whopping 43 points on the board....for the whole game

Why can't they score on the road???

Probably not as much as UC fans considering UNC doesn't have a long documented history of not being able to score. Add that to the fact that Virginia is a very good team, and UCF isn't. So essentially your argument is pointless.

[cincyguy13]

Originally Posted by TheLongHaul

Probably not as much as UC fans considering UNC doesn't have a long documented history of not being able to score. Add that to the fact that Virginia is a very good team, and UCF isn't. So essentially your argument is pointless.

Agree. If we have won anywhere near the amount North Carolina has it would be a lot easier to chalk up as a bad game and move on

[ZCat]

Originally Posted by waterhead

Teams are packing the paint daring us to shoot 3's and doubling our post players. We have to make a higher % of 3's or...OR JUST MAYBE...we can run a little bit so we can TRY TO get short shots off before the D sets up?

If we don't have guards who want to push the pace...maybe we need to bring in some guys that do for at least a portion of the game. We have to rebound well on the other end of course to push it.

It's very rare to see Caupain take an outlet pass and immediately pass the ball up the court to guys who are already sprinting up court...let alone take off dribbling like a bat out of hell. If we could just get 5 more "easier" shots off each game by pushing the ball...it would help a lot. I know one guy who does this almost every chance he gets. I would prefer that guy be Caupain but it's not...and the coach can't seem to get him to do it even with a significant amount of prodding.

We rushed up the court at the end of the game, and almost got a dunk. Easy 2 points in 8 sec, C's difficult 3 points in 30 sec. Imagine that. We the defense scramble.

[Bearcat_NTS]

Originally Posted by juckerrules

I wonder if North Carolina fans are crapping their drawers as much as Cincinnati fans....after all, their beloved Tar Heels just went on the road to Virginia & got whipped when they put a whopping 43 points on the board....for the whole game

Why can't they score on the road???

Love this argument. The Mick guys use it every year.

[juckerrules]

Originally Posted by juckerrules

I wonder if North Carolina fans are crapping their drawers as much as Cincinnati fans....after all, their beloved Tar Heels just went on the road to Virginia & got whipped when they put a whopping 43 points on the board....for the whole game

Why can't they score on the road???

Of course it's pointless....it's meant to put UC's plight in a little perspective....sorry the subtlety was lost on you

[waterhead]

Originally Posted by TheLongHaul

Probably not as much as UC fans considering UNC doesn't have a long documented history of not being able to score. Add that to the fact that Virginia is a very good team, and UCF isn't. So essentially your argument is pointless.

UCF is a very good defensive team. We should have beat them but their defense is very good. We had enough good looks to win the game but we have to find out an easier way of producing 65 points or so against solid defenses. If we can't make 3's we need to find easier 2's or FT's.

Had we pushed the pace more I think we could have seen some easier buckets before the D sets up. Half court D is designed for players to be in certain spots and they all know where to be. When you push the pace they have to scramble to figure out who to guard first and it becomes a lot less efficient on the defensive end.

We got plenty of good looks in the half court sets to win but we just don't shoot well on the road so we have to change something up. We need to find about 3 more easy layups or short jumpers per game...and then of course shooting a little better will help. If those layups come from more picks, passes, penetration and movement that's fine but I think we are missing the boat by not pushing against very good defensive teams before their D can get set. Why in the world would you choose to run half court offense against the better defensive teams out there? Makes no sense.