Frustration Thread

[cincrulz11]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

Using your logic wouldn't it also be hard to blow a 22 point lead?

commentators even noted our guys looked scared and completely unsure of what to do. thats a reflection of the coach.


the old style of berating and screaming at your players all the time is going away. look how all the young solid coaches act these days. different players and different environment. it would probably be in micks best interest to slowly move that way as well.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by cincrulz11

commentators even noted our guys looked scared and completely unsure of what to do. thats a reflection of the coach.


the old style of berating and screaming at your players all the time is going away. look how all the young solid coaches act these days. different players and different environment. it would probably be in micks best interest to slowly move that way as well.

I won't argue the point that times are changing but all these guys went through The Whole year playing under his style. No one should have been surprised. Look fact is you can't give the players all the credit for a wonderful season then when a 22 point lead is blown in 11 minutes its all on the coach. That is very self serving. All involved had a hand in that loss. It was horrendous. It was Historic!! Hopefully Mick can adjust to the times if it is needed. The guys that play for him love him. They stay 4 years and leave it all on the court. You don't get the effort that he gets without the kids respecting the coach. Also Mick loves his players. They know that as well.

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

Using your logic wouldn't it also be hard to blow a 22 point lead?

Obviously.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

Obviously.

Lol!!!

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

I won't argue the point that times are changing but all these guys went through The Whole year playing under his style. No one should have been surprised. Look fact is you can't give the players all the credit for a wonderful season then when a 22 point lead is blown in 11 minutes its all on the coach. That is very self serving. All involved had a hand in that loss. It was horrendous. It was Historic!! Hopefully Mick can adjust to the times if it is needed. The guys that play for him love him. They stay 4 years and leave it all on the court. You don't get the effort that he gets without the kids respecting the coach. Also Mick loves his players. They know that as well.

I think you are still missing the idea that a lot of the blame for the players in that particular game, is a result of being mishandled throughout. Not saying you have to agree with it.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

I think you are still missing the idea that a lot of the blame for the players in that particular game, is a result of being mishandled throughout. Not saying you have to agree with it.

I don't and the team results support that. Jake that wasn't the first close game we played. The conference tourney were all nail biters. We shit the bed against Nevada. We had a great year except for a 11 minute stretch. Simple as that. From the coach on down. Nothing that happened during the year supports the thought we should have given away a 22 point lead.

[Jon Rycek]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

Using your logic wouldn't it also be hard to blow a 22 point lead?

All good is because of the players, all bad is because of the coach..

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by Jon Rycek

All good is because of the players, all bad is because of the coach..

Never all anything.

[skylinecat]

Thought this excerpt from the new ESPN article about the Celtics was interesting:

Frantic, screaming, gesticulating coaches can raise panic in players who might be prone to it. Some players tune out everything. Some follow the lead of authority figures. They look at Stevens and see assurance. They see, "Next play." "Some players have a tendency to get frazzled or emotional," Ainge said. "Brad helps with that."

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by skylinecat

Thought this excerpt from the new ESPN article about the Celtics was interesting:

Frantic, screaming, gesticulating coaches can raise panic in players who might be prone to it. Some players tune out everything. Some follow the lead of authority figures. They look at Stevens and see assurance. They see, "Next play." "Some players have a tendency to get frazzled or emotional," Ainge said. "Brad helps with that."

That says it all to me. We see it all the time. Cumberland is the type who can completely tune it out. Washington forced himself to be that way. Most of our players, and most college players can't do that.