2016 General Recruiting

culverrd · 07-19-2016, 10:31 PM

For goodness sake Mick just grab 2 grad transfers already and fill the spots. Its absolutely no risk but the reward and benefits could be huge for this team in the long run. Its a no brainer.

jacobkdoyle · 07-19-2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by culverrd

For goodness sake Mick just grab 2 grad transfers already and fill the spots. Its absolutely no risk but the reward and benefits could be huge for this team in the long run. Its a no brainer.

I think the trick is finding someone who can play on the wing and is worse than Kevin Johnson. We all know Johnson will start at the 2 over Cumberland. So in order for Cumberland (not Johnson) to get minutes, we have to get a bench only guy. Cumberland has to play. And he will. But it will be as a backup 2/3. There's basically no way Cronin would bench Johnson for him I don't think. So in order for both of those guys to stay in the rotation, we need someone who is willing to accept a limited role. That's not easy to do. So instead of reaching out to an Andrew White type, we have to find someone worse. Bc if we got someone good enough to command minutes, it'd be obvious that Johnson should be the odd man out. And Cronin wouldn't have that. Even if Johnson shoots 30%. Bc Johnson is a SR and a captain (and bc our coach doesn't use stats). Being a program guy trumps talent for Cronin. So it's challenging to actively pursue players who can be good enough to get spot minutes, but are bad enough to firmly stay behind a guy who has posted a 10.0 and 10.7 PER in his 2 years of playing time but has been named a captain regardless of the actual production.

*At least that's how this observer has seen things go down this spring.

WAITE HOYT 2 · 07-20-2016, 06:52 AM

wondering if XU signing Bernard is a reaction by Mack considering Myes Davis is being charged with Domestic violence. He may be done at X if convicted.

UCalum08 · 07-20-2016, 07:41 AM

Chris Mack was at Cvg this morning. Took every ounce of me not to say anything to him.

Also, Larry Davis was at the airport too and he said he is out on the recruiting trail. I told him to bring em home!

**waterhead** · 07-20-2016, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

I think the trick is finding someone who can play on the wing and is worse than Kevin Johnson. We all know Johnson will start at the 2 over Cumberland. So in order for Cumberland (not Johnson) to get minutes, we have to get a bench only guy. Cumberland has to play. And he will. But it will be as a backup 2/3. There's basically no way Cronin would bench Johnson for him I don't think. So in order for both of those guys to stay in the rotation, we need someone who is willing to accept a limited role. That's not easy to do. So instead of reaching out to an Andrew White type, we have to find someone worse. Bc if we got someone good enough to command minutes, it'd be obvious that Johnson should be the odd man out. And Cronin wouldn't have that. Even if Johnson shoots 30%. Bc Johnson is a SR and a captain (and bc our coach doesn't use stats). Being a program guy trumps talent for Cronin. So it's challenging to actively pursue players who can be good enough to get spot minutes, but are bad enough to firmly stay behind a guy who has posted a 10.0 and 10.7 PER in his 2 years of playing time but has been named a captain regardless of the actual production.

*At least that's how this observer has seen things go down this spring.

I would think we could find a walk-on who would almost fit this description...lol!

jacobkdoyle · 07-20-2016, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

wondering if XU signing Bernard is a reaction by Mack considering Myes Davis is being charged with Domestic violence. He may be done at X if convicted.

If Mack can just decide to get a guy that quickly, that doesn't say a lot for our coaches. They've been coming up empty for months trying to find a guy like Bernard.

BearcatSpaniard513 · 07-20-2016, 10:29 AM

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If Mack can just decide to get a guy that quickly, that doesn't say a lot for our coaches. They've been coming up empty for months trying to find a guy like Bernard.

Mick most likely could have signed Kevin Noulowe or even Solly Stansbury. They just weren't a fit for the program. I'll trust their decisions as to why that is, but we could have done the same think Mack just did but passed.

GarradJ21 · 07-20-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BearcatSpaniard513

Mick most likely could have signed Kevin Noulowe or even Solly Stansbury. They just weren't a fit for the program. I'll trust their decisions as to why that is, but we could have done the same think Mack just did but passed.

Agreed. Those players are playing at Delaware State and Richmond. Obviously we didn't care to have them. The one I thought looked good was the big guy from LA Tech that went to ISU. Oh well. We will be fine.

jacobkdoyle · 07-20-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BearcatSpaniard513

Mick most likely could have signed Kevin Noulowe or even Solly Stansbury. They just weren't a fit for the program. I'll trust their decisions as to why that is, but we could have done the same think Mack just did but passed.

Noulowe isn't a wing and Stansbury wasn't eligible this upcoming season.

culverrd · 07-21-2016, 02:15 AM

Exactly Noulowe is a Juco he would be taking up 2 years that isn't what we need unless he blows you away with potential and like Jacobkdoyle said Stansbury wasnt eligible this year. We need grad transfers who provide depth and quality practice bodies that dont take any 2017 scholys. No risk possible high reward guys that dont effect our 2017 recruiting class at all...

It shouldn't be that hard we dropped the ball on Bernard. Mack out recruited and grabbed him easy or we are just dumb to see that he is literally no risk whatsoever in signing him for a grad transfer year and who knows what he could bring to the team if its nothing and he gets no playing time who cares we probably will pocket the scholys like we do every freaking year and waste them...

07-19-2016, 10:31 PM	#1401
culverrd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 220	For goodness sake Mick just grab 2 grad transfers already and fill the spots. Its absolutely no risk but the reward and benefits could be huge for this team in the long run. Its a no brainer.

07-20-2016, 06:52 AM	#1403
WAITE HOYT 2 Epic Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 8,404	wondering if XU signing Bernard is a reaction by Mack considering Myes Davis is being charged with Domestic violence. He may be done at X if convicted.

07-20-2016, 07:41 AM	#1404
UCalum08 Epic Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 6,827	Chris Mack was at Cvg this morning. Took every ounce of me not to say anything to him. Also, Larry Davis was at the airport too and he said he is out on the recruiting trail. I told him to bring em home!

07-21-2016, 02:15 AM	#1410
culverrd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 220	Exactly Noulowe is a Juco he would be taking up 2 years that isn't what we need unless he blows you away with potential and like Jacobkdoyle said Stansbury wasnt eligible this year. We need grad transfers who provide depth and quality practice bodies that dont take any 2017 scholys. No risk possible high reward guys that dont effect our 2017 recruiting class at all... It shouldn't be that hard we dropped the ball on Bernard. Mack out recruited and grabbed him easy or we are just dumb to see that he is literally no risk whatsoever in signing him for a grad transfer year and who knows what he could bring to the team if its nothing and he gets no playing time who cares we probably will pocket the scholys like we do every freaking year and waste them...