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Old 04-12-2017, 02:41 PM   #461
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Cronin can get his team to a top 20 defense with all walk ons.

I mean. I am never concerned about the defensive end because knows how to coach defense.

Next years goals for me:
Top 20 on D
Top25-30 on O
I think part of this is due to the fact we have often recruited athleticism over skill and those guys were starting rather than role players and it's probably why our offense was so horrible. Jackson, Rubles, KJ, Ellis, Bishop etc.

Ellis was our leading scorer at under 10 PPG his first year back. KJ was 5th that year...6.5 PPG.

It's not hard to field a good defensive team when you are starting many non skilled athletes. When Rubles was a senior he was 3rd on team in scoring at 7.8 PPG...but he was a damn good defender! Jackson's junior year he averaged 3.8 points.

We are fortunate right now to have Clark and Evans who can do both...but Washington and Cumberland do not fit the mold of years gone by. I prefer the new recruiting and if we can somehow manage to hold onto our defensive efficiency that's great...but I don't expect to be quite as good.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:44 PM   #462
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I have no idea if this has been posted because, honestly, not keeping up with this thread lol. But, this tweets shows how many players are transferring out of the AAC. Not a good look.

https://twitter.com/tcf_15/status/851859986795773952
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:49 PM   #463
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I have no idea if this has been posted because, honestly, not keeping up with this thread lol. But, this tweets shows how many players are transferring out of the AAC. Not a good look.

https://twitter.com/tcf_15/status/851859986795773952
Par for the course.
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Old 04-12-2017, 02:52 PM   #464
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I think part of this is due to the fact we have often recruited athleticism over skill and those guys were starting rather than role players and it's probably why our offense was so horrible. Jackson, Rubles, KJ, Ellis, Bishop etc.

Ellis was our leading scorer at under 10 PPG his first year back. KJ was 5th that year...6.5 PPG.

It's not hard to field a good defensive team when you are starting many non skilled athletes. When Rubles was a senior he was 3rd on team in scoring at 7.8 PPG...but he was a damn good defender! Jackson's junior year he averaged 3.8 points.

We are fortunate right now to have Clark and Evans who can do both...but Washington and Cumberland do not fit the mold of years gone by. I prefer the new recruiting and if we can somehow manage to hold onto our defensive efficiency that's great...but I don't expect to be quite as good.
I think I heard Cumberland was only behind Clark in deflections (might have been per minute). And again, when we're in zone he's often at the bottom, which is an easier assignment. Especially for a guy with good instincts. There was concern about his defense coming into this year...that didn't really show to be true, especially as the year went on. It's not like he's a bad athlete. And he'll only get better.
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I think I heard Cumberland was only behind Clark in deflections (might have been per minute). And again, when we're in zone he's often at the bottom, which is an easier assignment. Especially for a guy with good instincts. There was concern about his defense coming into this year...that didn't really show to be true, especially as the year went on. It's not like he's a bad athlete. And he'll only get better.
I can believe that about deflections. His instincts are off the charts even if his jumping ability is not...Lol!
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:18 PM   #466
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I have no idea if this has been posted because, honestly, not keeping up with this thread lol. But, this tweets shows how many players are transferring out of the AAC. Not a good look.

https://twitter.com/tcf_15/status/851859986795773952
Johnny Dawkins son transferring from Michigan to UCF, that's interesting.

I don't think anyone outside of people who post on a board like this knows or cares about how many kids are transferring out of the AAC. I don't think it's a "look" for our league, I'm sure you could put together a similar list for almost any conference.
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Old 04-12-2017, 03:54 PM   #467
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Johnny Dawkins son transferring from Michigan to UCF, that's interesting.

I don't think anyone outside of people who post on a board like this knows or cares about how many kids are transferring out of the AAC. I don't think it's a "look" for our league, I'm sure you could put together a similar list for almost any conference.
Agree, no one on that list Besides the Lawson's, will turn any heads
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:03 PM   #468
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I think I heard Cumberland was only behind Clark in deflections (might have been per minute). And again, when we're in zone he's often at the bottom, which is an easier assignment. Especially for a guy with good instincts. There was concern about his defense coming into this year...that didn't really show to be true, especially as the year went on. It's not like he's a bad athlete. And he'll only get better.
Per the banquet, the player with most deflections per minute played for 16-17 - Cumberland got the award
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:06 PM   #469
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I can believe that about deflections. His instincts are off the charts even if his jumping ability is not...Lol!
I think that we agree that is something can be improved more easily than improving lateral quickness. Give Rehfeldt a year with Cumberland. See the changes Evans had vertically between fr and So.
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Agree, no one on that list Besides the Lawson's, will turn any heads
And only one of the Lawsons does that
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