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1-2 9 14.52%
3 27 43.55%
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:51 PM   #71
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My bad. I thought Nova was a given. Highest seed we can expect is a 4.
Not that I think it will happen, but if we win out I think we are a #1 seed. That would be three wins against WSU most likely and a win at Houston and SMU. Plus no losses since December. I know everyone wants to crap on our schedule but this is going a bit to far.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:33 PM   #72
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Not that I think it will happen, but if we win out I think we are a #1 seed. That would be three wins against WSU most likely and a win at Houston and SMU. Plus no losses since December. I know everyone wants to crap on our schedule but this is going a bit to far.
The only thing that's going to far is anyone thinking we have any shot at a #1 seed. You are talking like wins against Houston and SMU are great wins. Those two teams might not een make the tourney.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:20 AM   #73
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The only thing that's going to far is anyone thinking we have any shot at a #1 seed. You are talking like wins against Houston and SMU are great wins. Those two teams might not een make the tourney.
Wins at Houston and SMU are likely group 1 wins. That means the committee sees them as “great wins” not me. Three wins over WSU would be pretty remarkable. None of this will happen so this is just and academic exercise. Personally, I think UC will be lucky to get a 4 because I think they have 2-3 more losses on their schedule.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:51 AM   #74
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Really think this is going to be a very difficult year for he selection committee The blue bloods such as Duke, KY and UNC are not slam dunks this year. The Pac 12 is a mess. Should be a very interesting selection Sunday.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:00 AM   #75
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Not that I think it will happen, but if we win out I think we are a #1 seed. That would be three wins against WSU most likely and a win at Houston and SMU. Plus no losses since December. I know everyone wants to crap on our schedule but this is going a bit to far.
I think our ceiling is a 2. I think we start from there and drop around one seed line for each loss from here on out. I think we are going to be plus or minus a seed line from matching our losses.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:06 AM   #76
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Wins at Houston and SMU are likely group 1 wins. That means the committee sees them as “great wins” not me. Three wins over WSU would be pretty remarkable. None of this will happen so this is just and academic exercise. Personally, I think UC will be lucky to get a 4 because I think they have 2-3 more losses on their schedule.
Having column 1 and 2 wins is huge but in the end I think the committee will look at whether our wins in each column are at the top end or bottom end of that spectrum. We aren't going to have a lot of marquee wins because we only have WSU to do that with. We have likely lost our two next best chances.

If we can put up a good win loss % against column 1 and 2 I think we will be okay. We are projected to be 5-3 against column 1 which would mean we win every game until the last game away at WSU. Worst we want to do is go 4-4 against column 1. I would rather pick up a column 2 loss than a column 1 at this point so we look better against the best teams. Our column 2 should look very very good as a % even with a loss. We want column 1 to look good as a % as well.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:16 AM   #77
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My bad. I thought Nova was a given. Highest seed we can expect is a 4.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:18 AM   #78
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It's still really early. It's hard to tell what the 1 line will look like. The Big Ten is very weak this year, so it will probably take Purdue finishing out the season with only 1 or 2 more losses to get there. Michigan St has only a single Group 1 win right now. The Big 12, while very strong could very well beat each other up at the top. I don't know if a 6 7 loss team from the Big 12 would make it over 32-2 UC. Kansas and Oklahoma have been vulnerable. Villanova's schedule is back loaded. They play at Providence, Xavier, Creighton and Seton Hall in February. There's a chance they could add some losses as well.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:33 AM   #79
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Having column 1 and 2 wins is huge but in the end I think the committee will look at whether our wins in each column are at the top end or bottom end of that spectrum. We aren't going to have a lot of marquee wins because we only have WSU to do that with. We have likely lost our two next best chances.

If we can put up a good win loss % against column 1 and 2 I think we will be okay. We are projected to be 5-3 against column 1 which would mean we win every game until the last game away at WSU. Worst we want to do is go 4-4 against column 1. I would rather pick up a column 2 loss than a column 1 at this point so we look better against the best teams. Our column 2 should look very very good as a % even with a loss. We want column 1 to look good as a % as well.
Why label them as a certain group if there are tiers within that group? That doesn't make sense to me. The committee is going to look at Group 1 wins and then analyze how "Group 1-y" they really are?
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It's still really early. It's hard to tell what the 1 line will look like. The Big Ten is very weak this year, so it will probably take Purdue finishing out the season with only 1 or 2 more losses to get there. Michigan St has only a single Group 1 win right now. The Big 12, while very strong could very well beat each other up at the top. I don't know if a 6 7 loss team from the Big 12 would make it over 32-2 UC. Kansas and Oklahoma have been vulnerable. Villanova's schedule is back loaded. They play at Providence, Xavier, Creighton and Seton Hall in February. There's a chance they could add some losses as well.
My main concern is our chances at signature wins from here on out. If we beat WSU once I think it will look pretty good (provide WSU doesn't keep blowing other games). If we beat them twice they might be starting to appear toward the bottom end of the top 25. They just lost to SMU at home which doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in just how good they are. I mean the biggest knock on them last year was not playing in a good conference. They are 17 in Kenpom right now. They have to win out (outside of UC) to give us marquee win chances.
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