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Old 05-17-2017, 03:45 PM   #301
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Anyone know how NKU is looking this upcoming season? We've talked about all the other big names on the schedule, but you have to figure we worked out a home-and-home or something with NKU. Although I'm a little surprised we haven't heard anything yet.

NKU was obviously pretty good last year, making the tournament with an 87 RPI and 138 KenPom. They're certainly a better play than some of the other cupcakes we'll be facing.
We are entering a series with them but it won't be for a couple years out (after we move back to 5/3rd).

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Old 05-18-2017, 07:40 AM   #302
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Good scheduling is all about increasing opportunity.
Last year we had just 6 chances at top 50 Kenpom wins

This year we could have :
WSU x 2
UCF X 2
Ucla
Florida
Xavier
Smu x 2


That's 9 just using the teams we know will be good.
Houston, temple, uconn and miss state could all be top 50 or top 100 at worse.

Basically at minimum adding 50% more chances at top 50 wins. And even more if other teams improve
That is a solid slate which should give us a chance to get some signature wins as well as solid top 50 wins. Hopefully 1 or 2 more teams in the AAC pull their weight and we get WSU twice.

I like the idea of the committee looking at more metrics based ranking systems. The arbitrary cut offs of top 25, 50, and 100 wins doesn't tell the whole story. If you have played and beaten team in the low 50's a couple times would be an obvious example. Our wins over Houston couldn't have been much worse than a win over a team in the high 40's. Another if, for instance, the teams around 50 is higher quality or lower quality year over year.

Weighting actual rankings and win margins should be used. This way a win over a team ranked 49 is treated roughly the same as a win over a team ranked 51. In the grand scheme the team ranked 51 could actually be a better team than the one ranked 49...it could be a simple difference of a single last second full court shot made against them...in other words "luck" can play a bigger part in whether you are ranked either high 40's or low 50's.

Arbitrary cutoffs are dumb IMO.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:25 AM   #303
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That is a solid slate which should give us a chance to get some signature wins as well as solid top 50 wins. Hopefully 1 or 2 more teams in the AAC pull their weight and we get WSU twice.

I like the idea of the committee looking at more metrics based ranking systems. The arbitrary cut offs of top 25, 50, and 100 wins doesn't tell the whole story. If you have played and beaten team in the low 50's a couple times would be an obvious example. Our wins over Houston couldn't have been much worse than a win over a team in the high 40's. Another if, for instance, the teams around 50 is higher quality or lower quality year over year.

Weighting actual rankings and win margins should be used. This way a win over a team ranked 49 is treated roughly the same as a win over a team ranked 51. In the grand scheme the team ranked 51 could actually be a better team than the one ranked 49...it could be a simple difference of a single last second full court shot made against them...in other words "luck" can play a bigger part in whether you are ranked either high 40's or low 50's.

Arbitrary cutoffs are dumb IMO.

I agree it is dumb.


Id almost rather the committee develop its own standard Metric and rank teams accordingly and have it be updated daily.

And then remove all stipulations in the tournament (you can play a team in your conference or a team you already played once in first round) and just take the human element out of seeding.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:46 AM   #304
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We are entering a series with them but it won't be for a couple years out (after we move back to 5/3rd).
I've heard from an NKU team source that it will be a 4 game series
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I've heard from an NKU team source that it will be a 4 game series
I'd rather it be a 2 for 1 kinda deal
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Old 05-18-2017, 01:07 PM   #306
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I'd rather it be a 2 for 1 kinda deal
Yeah but probably wasn't going to happen since they are letting us use their arena. My guess is that had something to do with the 4 game series.
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:41 PM   #307
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I wanted to move this article from the 2017-2018 thread to the OOC thread..https://www.fanragsports.com/news/ci...-forget-games/

Thanks BearcatRip..Sounds like Florida game is going to for sure happen.

I can't wait to see this matchup.

OOC sits as...
1. Lessor opponent from the Cayman Classic
2. Lessor opponent from the Cayman Classic
3. UAB/Richmond/Wyoming?
4. Iowa (hopefully)
5. Florida
6. UCLA
7. Mississippi State
8. Xavier
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:59 PM   #308
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I wanted to move this article from the 2017-2018 thread to the OOC thread..https://www.fanragsports.com/news/ci...-forget-games/

Thanks BearcatRip..Sounds like Florida game is going to for sure happen.

I can't wait to see this matchup.

OOC sits as...
1. Lessor opponent from the Cayman Classic
2. Lessor opponent from the Cayman Classic
3. UAB/Richmond/Wyoming?
4. Iowa (hopefully)
5. Florida
6. UCLA
7. Mississippi State
8. Xavier
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
I wish the Cayman Classic offered us at least one match-up against a surefire NCAA team, but at least the "lesser" opponents are quality mid-majors like Buffalo and South Dakota State.
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I wish the Cayman Classic offered us at least one match-up against a surefire NCAA team, but at least the "lesser" opponents are quality mid-majors like Buffalo and South Dakota State.
The mid majors in that bracket are worth alone. Those are games we just wouldn't be able to afford as buy games. We basically can afford maybe 1 or 2 good buy games a year. Our fan base is a lot like a mostly football school where they basically don't show up until after January. So we can't buy those expensive teams
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