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Old 11-21-2017, 04:21 PM   #141
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Found this tidbit on how road wins are going to carry more value than in the past with the committee. Basically what is being said here is that a top 30 win at home is equal to a top 50 win on a neutral site and a top 75 road win. And so on down the line. In the past I think a top 50 win was a top 50 win whether at home or on the road. It also sounds like the committee will use more of a composite of several metrics to make these determinations. I think UC would have benefited with this last year.


Column 1: Home games against teams ranked 1-30, neutral games vs. top-50 teams, road games against top-75 teams

Column 2: Home games against teams ranked 31-75, neutral games vs. 51-100, road games vs. 76-135

Column 3: Home games against teams ranked 76-160, neutral games vs. 101-200, road games vs. 136-240

Column 4: Home games against teams ranked 161-351, neutral games vs. 201-351, road games vs. 241-351
I could see them putting something like a 50% weight on wins in column 1 followed by 25% on column 2. Then maybe 15% and 10% for the last two columns. So far we would have 3 wins in column 4 and 1 in column 3.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:37 PM   #142
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Found this tidbit on how road wins are going to carry more value than in the past with the committee. Basically what is being said here is that a top 30 win at home is equal to a top 50 win on a neutral site and a top 75 road win. And so on down the line. In the past I think a top 50 win was a top 50 win whether at home or on the road. It also sounds like the committee will use more of a composite of several metrics to make these determinations. I think UC would have benefited with this last year.


Column 1: Home games against teams ranked 1-30, neutral games vs. top-50 teams, road games against top-75 teams

Column 2: Home games against teams ranked 31-75, neutral games vs. 51-100, road games vs. 76-135

Column 3: Home games against teams ranked 76-160, neutral games vs. 101-200, road games vs. 136-240

Column 4: Home games against teams ranked 161-351, neutral games vs. 201-351, road games vs. 241-351
This also still leaves a lot of wiggle room for the committee to make judgement calls. Obviously beating #1 should have more weight than beating #30. So the committee can go through and say "yah but"...and then move teams around like they want to.

I would probably prefer they just rank every team from 1 to 351. A road win against #1 is worth 100% of 351 points and a road win against team #351 is worth 1 point. Then assign a multiplier something like .85 to neutral games and .70 to home games. So a neutral win against #1 is worth 351 x .85...and a home win would be 351 x .70.
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:00 AM   #143
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This also still leaves a lot of wiggle room for the committee to make judgement calls. Obviously beating #1 should have more weight than beating #30. So the committee can go through and say "yah but"...and then move teams around like they want to.

I would probably prefer they just rank every team from 1 to 351. A road win against #1 is worth 100% of 351 points and a road win against team #351 is worth 1 point. Then assign a multiplier something like .85 to neutral games and .70 to home games. So a neutral win against #1 is worth 351 x .85...and a home win would be 351 x .70.
You just pretty much described kenpom and sagarin
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:28 AM   #144
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I'm very interested to see how Wichita State does against Notre Dame (#13) in Maui. ND has been totally dominant so far (albeit against mostly weak competition, but they absolutely destroyed LSU)
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:30 PM   #145
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Old Dominion, Auburn & Clemson all have only one loss.....all to Temple
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Old 11-22-2017, 09:19 PM   #146
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Smu is losing by 8 at halftime to northern Iowa who is..... not good
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Old 11-23-2017, 10:14 AM   #147
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UCF vs Nebraska

UConn vs Oregon

SMU vs Arizona

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Old 11-23-2017, 07:46 PM   #148
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Smu is losing by 8 at halftime to northern Iowa who is..... not good
Disagree....ask NC State, who was good enough to beat #2 Arizona
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:43 PM   #149
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Disagree....ask NC State, who was good enough to beat #2 Arizona
It doesn’t work that way.

N.C. state won’t finish in the top 6 of the ACC. Arizona would. Arizona was worse for a night. Xavier will blow the doors off northern Iowa in their own gym in December.

Unless they win the conference tourney, uni is not a tourney team. There were god aweful last year and unless they made some drastic improvements, I’m sure they regress.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:44 PM   #150
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Disagree....ask NC State, who was good enough to beat #2 Arizona
Also. The third best team in the American should beat the 2nd best team in the Missouri valley every single time.
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