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Old 11-13-2017, 01:39 PM   #131
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The problem for us is we have so many big early games. They dont have the time to get Broome adjusted (if it gets adjusted). We need to win these early ones for our seeding. We already know winning games in our conference means nothing to the committee.
I would agree here. Cane has to figure out the speed of the game in the next 2-3 weeks. We can't afford for him to learn in January...December is too big.

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Old 11-13-2017, 01:51 PM   #132
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Stuff everyone probably already said...

Need work on free throws. No excuse to be bad there.

Passing...I like where our heads are at. We'll get on the same page and look crisper as the year goes on.

Trevor Moore is good. I never mind him shooting. Perma-Green Light from 3.

Keith Williams is relentless. He's special.

Nsoseme plays really hard.

Jenifer is confident and having fun playing. He's very important.
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:00 PM   #133
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Stuff everyone probably already said...

Need work on free throws. No excuse to be bad there.

Passing...I like where our heads are at. We'll get on the same page and look crisper as the year goes on.

Trevor Moore is good. I never mind him shooting. Perma-Green Light from 3.

Keith Williams is relentless. He's special.

Nsoseme plays really hard.

Jenifer is confident and having fun playing. He's very important.
re: free throws....I know there really isn't a basis for comparing these guys....but last year there wasn't a single NBA team that shot less than 70% from the line...if you round, 7 teams were 80% or higher...
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:03 PM   #134
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Iím not even sure Jenifer even struggled last year. Mick trusted his PG and Troy was gonna play a ton no matter what Jenifer did. Jenifer is a pass first PG and this needs thre best scorers on the floor with him. He will get that chance this year and thus will look better. He made some highlight reel layups last year and I expect the same this year. Iím also starting to trust his jumper
I agree and I don't really mean struggle, I could have used a better word. His shooting has obviously gotten much better and just seems to have it a little more.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:04 PM   #135
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I said this before the season started but I think PG play is going to be only thing that might stop this team from being great (from a roster standpoint). We definitely need to get contributions from the bench (Scott and Brooks) but I think Mick can adjust rotations a little to limit that if it becomes a problem. Gary and Kyle are both seniors and should be capable of playing a large number of minutes if necessary.

Great teams almost always have a great PG and I'm not sure if we have one on this roster. Broome could be that guy by the time we hit March and JJ is a very capable backup. It'll be interesting to see how the PG play unfolds as we get into the tougher part of our schedule. We're going to get tested early and often in this tough stretch coming up, I can't wait to see how it all plays out.
Where does any of this come from, just negative assumptions that's all
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:32 AM   #136
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you dont think PG is a concern for this team but it was a concern the past 4 years? thats an interesting take.


of course this could all be sarcasm, never can tell
No sarcasm at all. We have true point guards this season. The past four years, we didn't have a true point guard....except for Jenifer, who was still developing and not very effective.
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Old 11-14-2017, 10:25 AM   #137
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No sarcasm at all. We have true point guards this season. The past four years, we didn't have a true point guard....except for Jenifer, who was still developing and not very effective.
damn i thought the days of saying Caupain wasn't a true PG were over. People missed a pretty good career I think.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:08 AM   #138
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damn i thought the days of saying Caupain wasn't a true PG were over. People missed a pretty good career I think.
Troy was a very good player but it's hard to point to other PG's in college basketball and say he resembles any of them. He was very unique. I know this may sound ridiculous but he was almost a poor man's Magic Johnson. He kept his back to the defender when dribbling and used his size to pass over them. He did not speed up the court...he just controlled the tempo. I am not sure I would call Magic a "true PG" either...but he was damn good at what he did though.
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:49 PM   #139
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damn i thought the days of saying Caupain wasn't a true PG were over. People missed a pretty good career I think.
Of the three Cronin-era Point Guards, Deonta Vaughn, Cash Wright, and Caupain, Caupain was the worst in my opinion. Was he a bad player....absolutely not. He was a nice player overall, but forced to play PG because we really didn't have any other great options. Nice solid career. Lots of regular season wins, but 3-4 in conference tourney and 2-4 in the NCAA. If he wasn't doing all the ball-handling, he may have been a better 2-guard and may have shot better. He was certainly a great rebounder for his size, but so-so on defense. The next 4 years should be a big upgrade at that position....hopefully!
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Of the three Cronin-era Point Guards, Deonta Vaughn, Cash Wright, and Caupain, Caupain was the worst in my opinion. Was he a bad player....absolutely not. He was a nice player overall, but forced to play PG because we really didn't have any other great options. Nice solid career. Lots of regular season wins, but 3-4 in conference tourney and 2-4 in the NCAA. If he wasn't doing all the ball-handling, he may have been a better 2-guard and may have shot better. He was certainly a great rebounder for his size, but so-so on defense. The next 4 years should be a big upgrade at that position....hopefully!
played pg in high school, was recruited as a pg, played pg, playing pg as a professional.


i dont know why people can't accept it. caupain is NOT an off the ball player at all and he's not a shooter or a slasher.


certainly caupain had limitations as a player but everybody thinking he was out of position and wasn't a real pg missed all the things he did really well and really missed one hell of a career.
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