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BearcatSpaniard513 06-22-2015 11:20 AM

UC President Ono offers full ride to Kim's sons
 
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...sons/29101709/

Santa Ono's Tweet: As a small token of gratitude to Officer Sonny Kim, UC will cover full undergraduate tuition for his 3 sons should they matriculate at UC
— Santa J. Ono (@PrezOno) June 22, 2015

We are so lucky to have him as President! Cares about the students, athletics and is very much involved in the community. I hope we have him for many more years

david aka the TYZ 06-22-2015 03:46 PM

This is a class act all the way around. Good for Ono and good for anyone involved in the decision making.

Bulldog01 07-29-2015 12:52 PM

Wonder if he does same for Sam kids.

david aka the TYZ 07-29-2015 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog01 (Post 116483)
Wonder if he does same for Sam kids.

Good question. My guess is it would be a conflict of interest or even a bribe somehow to even offer it in the same manner, but I think in a settlement it could and maybe should be offered. One way or the other UC will be paying his family a ton of money.

I'm glad this cop was wearing a body cam and we got to see what happened. I have alot of respect for Ono and I have full confidence he will handle this situation in the right way. I expect changes to be made regarding training and the jurisdiction UC officers will have. I was shocked to learn UC officers not only could pull people over off campus but that they had guns. I don't know why but I always assumed UC cops were more private security than real cops (not to demean them or put them down).

Bulldog01 07-29-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by david aka the TYZ (Post 116489)
Good question. My guess is it would be a conflict of interest or even a bribe somehow to even offer it in the same manner, but I think in a settlement it could and maybe should be offered. One way or the other UC will be paying his family a ton of money.

I'm glad this cop was wearing a body cam and we got to see what happened. I have alot of respect for Ono and I have full confidence he will handle this situation in the right way. I expect changes to be made regarding training and the jurisdiction UC officers will have. I was shocked to learn UC officers not only could pull people over off campus but that they had guns. I don't know why but I always assumed UC cops were more private security than real cops (not to demean them or put them down).

Campus police are the real deal. UC already got hit with massive lawsuit in 2011 from death of taser. UC police no longer use tasers because of that. I predict an record breaking lawsuit up in 20+ once it's all said and done. UC going to take big hit off this.

david aka the TYZ 07-29-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog01 (Post 116494)
Campus police are the real deal. UC already got hit with massive lawsuit in 2011 from death of taser. UC police no longer use tasers because of that. I predict an record breaking lawsuit up in 20+ once it's all said and done. UC going to take big hit off this.

Yeah I'm afraid you're right.


EDIT: Although come to think of it, with UC being a public/state school, it will probably be the taxpayers footing the bill like it would be for any other cop. Especially if they're certified (probably not the right term) by the state of Ohio to enforce Ohio laws.

Bulldog01 07-29-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by david aka the TYZ (Post 116497)
Yeah I'm afraid you're right.


EDIT: Although come to think of it, with UC being a public/state school, it will probably be the taxpayers footing the bill like it would be for any other cop. Especially if they're certified (probably not the right term) by the state of Ohio to enforce Ohio laws.

His family is more than likely going to sue uc,Cincinnati and state.

bearcat8290 08-31-2015 06:01 AM

I thought it was interesting when the other day, the Enquirer reported heated meetings with community church groups and leaders over the shooting. One man indicted the meetings were heated, another did not think so. In addition, the community leaders suggested a full and complete investigation and full compensation for the victim's family. Not sure I remember the last time a community group of activists suggested full compensation. My concerns with the victim are as follows:

-arrest record of over 90 arrests in Cincinnati Police records. That does not even suggest all of the crimes he committed that he was not arrested for that he also carried out.

-drug dealing. Not sure, but most people don't carry around 2 pounds of pot on them and not deal. He also had 2$600.00 dollars so my guess is he has already made some deals. He was dealing drugs. Maybe officer Tensing realized that and saw something suspicious and decided to pull him over on the minor license plate violation. Also one must consider all the lives he may have negatively affected because of his drug dealing.

-victim failed to get out of the car after requests by the officer. That in and of itself is a violation. He was uncooperative during the entire period of time.

-The prosecution is making it's case to the public calling Tensing's actions as stupid and of poor judgement.

Concerns with Police officer actions:

-officer in general reacted too quickly in shooting driver

-fatal shots maybe could have been avoided. Could have possibly let him go, however, he may have discovered and know more than the general public as to why he pulled him over. For instance, prior to the stop, Tensing may have witnessed Debose dealing drugs somewhere near campus. We all know that kind of thing happens up there more than it should. When and after the suspicious behavior, he decided to pull over Debose and question him about his license and check further on him.

-may not have been trained properly on use of new guns

WAITE HOYT 2 08-31-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bearcat8290 (Post 117035)
I thought it was interesting when the other day, the Enquirer reported heated meetings with community church groups and leaders over the shooting. One man indicted the meetings were heated, another did not think so. In addition, the community leaders suggested a full and complete investigation and full compensation for the victim's family. Not sure I remember the last time a community group of activists suggested full compensation. My concerns with the victim are as follows:

-arrest record of over 90 arrests in Cincinnati Police records. That does not even suggest all of the crimes he committed that he was not arrested for that he also carried out.

-drug dealing. Not sure, but most people don't carry around 2 pounds of pot on them and not deal. He also had 2$600.00 dollars so my guess is he has already made some deals. He was dealing drugs. Maybe officer Tensing realized that and saw something suspicious and decided to pull him over on the minor license plate violation. Also one must consider all the lives he may have negatively affected because of his drug dealing.

-victim failed to get out of the car after requests by the officer. That in and of itself is a violation. He was uncooperative during the entire period of time.

-The prosecution is making it's case to the public calling Tensing's actions as stupid and of poor judgement.

Concerns with Police officer actions:

-officer in general reacted too quickly in shooting driver

-fatal shots maybe could have been avoided. Could have possibly let him go, however, he may have discovered and know more than the general public as to why he pulled him over. For instance, prior to the stop, Tensing may have witnessed Debose dealing drugs somewhere near campus. We all know that kind of thing happens up there more than it should. When and after the suspicious behavior, he decided to pull over Debose and question him about his license and check further on him.

-may not have been trained properly on use of new guns

bearcat8920 The 90 arrest are not convictions. How many of the 90 was he found guilty of?

bearcat8290 08-31-2015 04:20 PM

good point. We don't know that either. I would assume many are convictions.


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