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mdchick 01-11-2019 09:57 AM

Cumberland first half foul trouble
 
If Cumberland can stay out of foul trouble in the first half and allow us to play him at least 17 mins in the first half, we are the best team in the conference, but like you saw with ecu and Tulsa if he doesn’t play we are at best even with these teams, he can’t be on the bench for 12 mins in a game for us he does to much for us and I don’t just mean scoring wise

cincrulz11 01-11-2019 10:01 AM

cumberland has been really unlucky in a lot of the fouls he's picked up. and its been like that his entire career. as a freshman he got a lot of charges that weren't close to being charges. now he gets them for defense and at times the replays show he doesn't even touch a guy.



last night he got 2 fouls at the same time and neither should have been called. its really odd for a superstar player to get the calls against him so often like cumberland does.

cincrulz11 01-11-2019 10:03 AM

with that said there are times he doesn't really use his brain and puts himself in a spot he shouldn't be. he'll do lazy reach ins and stuff that he's gotta be smarter about. but for the most part i think its out of his hands.

Helicopter 01-11-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cincrulz11 (Post 194196)
cumberland has been really unlucky in a lot of the fouls he's picked up. and its been like that his entire career. as a freshman he got a lot of charges that weren't close to being charges. now he gets them for defense and at times the replays show he doesn't even touch a guy.



last night he got 2 fouls at the same time and neither should have been called. its really odd for a superstar player to get the calls against him so often like cumberland does.

Seriously. If he had a penchant for fouling I would see it. The guy gets so unlucky. The Refs should be censured for the officiating last night.

Tulsa (Haith)'s gameplan is so simple (reminds me of the 2006 cats): Initiate contact with the defender, flail and hope to go to the line. 21 fts to 9 last night -- it was all rotten.

Helicopter 01-11-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cincrulz11 (Post 194197)
with that said there are times he doesn't really use his brain and puts himself in a spot he shouldn't be. he'll do lazy reach ins and stuff that he's gotta be smarter about. but for the most part i think its out of his hands.

He also will have lazy passes occasionally (around the perimeter). I wish he would treat ever possession/motion with a purpose cause his b-ball instincts are so high.

waterhead 01-11-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchick (Post 194195)
If Cumberland can stay out of foul trouble in the first half and allow us to play him at least 17 mins in the first half, we are the best team in the conference, but like you saw with ecu and Tulsa if he doesn’t play we are at best even with these teams, he can’t be on the bench for 12 mins in a game for us he does to much for us and I don’t just mean scoring wise

Yah...we have to keep him on the court. Sometimes it's bad officiating which we can do nothing about but he has to avoid the silly one's. I think Tulsa was jawing at him a lot last night and he's not one to back off from that. He's been dangerously close to taunting in the past as well so he has to watch out for the T's. Other teams are going to target him as well.

Outside of that Cronin has to manage him better. Nevada with 4 fouls should have sat and was it OSU sitting him with 1? Both not smart IMO.

mdchick 01-11-2019 02:22 PM

I think the refs have been doing a great job this year on blocking/ charging fouls. And Cumberland charges a lot and they are the right call a lot, defensively he swipes way to much and regardless of wether it’s all ball or not seeing someone’s arm in the swiping motion is going to get a foul called on you.

Ideally his defense in the first have should be passive and then in the second half if he has fouls to play with he can get aggressive, he simply can’t foul at all he needs to be in the game

CareBat 01-11-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchick (Post 194206)
I think the refs have been doing a great job this year on blocking/ charging fouls. And Cumberland charges a lot and they are the right call a lot, defensively he swipes way to much

The charges from him I can live with. Kinda feels like he's gotten better about it each year at least. The tech didn't help.


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