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Old 02-14-2020, 11:42 AM   #41
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Butler doesn’t count though because they were at auto bid from winning their conference tourney.
Yes they won their tournament, but you aren't an 8 seed if you're the auto bid. So they still would've made it in soundly.

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Old 02-14-2020, 11:44 AM   #42
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You aren't an 8 seed if you're the auto bid.
I’m not debating seeds. You have to disqualify auto bids because you have no idea what would happen if they lost in the horizon tourney. Or whatever their league was called
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Old 02-15-2020, 12:00 PM   #43
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I’m not debating seeds. You have to disqualify auto bids because you have no idea what would happen if they lost in the horizon tourney. Or whatever their league was called
I would say that if they got an 8, like quadri said, they were in no matter what. Sure winning the tourney made it a lock and probably even moved their seed up a little, they would have had to drop behind another 16 teams at least to not make it. They’d never be that safe just because of a tourney win
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Old 02-15-2020, 12:56 PM   #44
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I would say that if they got an 8, like quadri said, they were in no matter what. Sure winning the tourney made it a lock and probably even moved their seed up a little, they would have had to drop behind another 16 teams at least to not make it. They’d never be that safe just because of a tourney win
Context is everything though.

Auto bids can’t be apart of the equation because they are in regardless. I’m not commenting on butler one way or the other, only that the only way to look at similar resumes is to look at at Large bids only.

You have to disqualify auto bids. With out butler getting the auto bid, it messes up the entire bracket because someone other team gets in if they don’t and it could bump someone else on this list off.

Obviously If UC wins the conference tourney then we can compare them to butlers Seeding. But when looking at at large bids you dang include auto bids unless we are 100% certain we will win our tourney
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Cincy moves to 36th in kenpom
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Old 02-16-2020, 03:07 PM   #46
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on yesterdays update to bracketmatrix we are up to an 11 seed and in 71 of 91 brackets.
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Old 02-16-2020, 03:28 PM   #47
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Cincy moves to 36th in kenpom
Now down to 40th again
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Old 02-16-2020, 03:34 PM   #48
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Very small but possible chance that UC could play UCLA in a play in game If UCLA wins out their remaining games.

The committee loves setting stuff like this up. If UCLA wins out or wins the conference tourney, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such a thing.
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Very small but possible chance that UC could play UCLA in a play in game If UCLA wins out their remaining games.

The committee loves setting stuff like this up. If UCLA wins out or wins the conference tourney, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such a thing.
UCLA won’t do either of those things. Bad coaching
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UCLA won’t do either of those things. Bad coaching
You’re probably right.

But they have 4 tier 1 wins right now. They win out, they not only have a better resume but could knock us off the bubble if we slipped up.


With 3 tier 1 games remaining and 2 tier 2

For what’s its worth kenpom predicts 5 straights losses

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