Crosstown Shootout Dec 6, 2020 Fifth Third Arena

Jon Rycek · 12-06-2020, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lefty

With only one game under its’ belt, it’s like the
Bearcats are walking into a dark room. X, with
five games at least knows where the furniture
is. Also, IMO, the talent disparity seems to favor
X this year. Unfortunately, could be ugly.

They’ve only won by a couple points in 3 of their games, they’re nothing special

**waterhead** · 12-06-2020, 09:33 AM

I expect we are going to have to use one or two of these 3 players a lot. Eason, Dou, Dav. As long as two perform decent (or one really good) and we can avoid super cold shooting by us or super hot shooting by them. I think we win this game...

skyblade · 12-06-2020, 01:20 PM

The biggest concern is our defense, Lipscomb had quite a bit of success with their guards driving to the basket and Xavier's guards are significantly better. Xavier's big men aren't exactly all that big, but they can shoot it from three. I'm guessing the are basically going to play a 5 out motion on offense and force Rap/Vogt to guard the perimeter (or go to the bench). Our guards are going to need to play D without any big backing them up in the paint if they make a mistake.

On the other side, Vogt/Rap need to really pound it in the interior to take advantage of their size. Given our shooting last game, don't be surprised if Xavier plays zone to try to take Vogt/Rap out of the game and force our guards to show they can hit threes. Somebody needs to hit some threes to prevent them from just collapsing the interior.

Rap has less of a size advantage of offense then he did last game and he didn't do particularly well of taking advantage of the mismatch. Vogt has a pretty big size mismatch though, so one major story of the game is going to be Freemantle/Vogt, who can score on the other and who can guard the other.

As Waterhead says, we probably need Eason, Dou or Davenport to have a good game. One or more of them is going to be called on if Rap/Vogt struggle in their matchup or if our defense struggles to guard the paint. I'm hoping for a close game that goes UC's way.

**waterhead** · 12-06-2020, 02:34 PM

Keith looking good so far. Mikey with some impressive D.

Where is Harvey?

**waterhead** · 12-06-2020, 02:52 PM

Eason has dialed down the mistakes a little. Saunders was good.

Harvey barely played. WTF is up there? Attitude?

Jon Rycek · 12-06-2020, 02:53 PM

Idc we have a lot of talent on this team. They just gotta learn to gel, especially on defense. That’s my biggest concern this year.

Bcatfollower · 12-06-2020, 02:53 PM

Just want to make a few 3s... is that to much to ask???

skyblade · 12-06-2020, 03:05 PM

We have missed open 3's, they have missed open 3's. Not a lot of defense is being played. Xavier's biggest weakness has been TO's, we've gotten a lot of fast break points.

**waterhead** · 12-06-2020, 03:06 PM

Keith put up some I’ll advised 3s. Raps shot looks horrendous. Just take good set 3s off the pass and they will go in

TheLivingLegend · 12-06-2020, 03:14 PM

Our defense needs major improvement...

Clean up backdoor layups and we can win

12-06-2020, 01:20 PM	#13
skyblade Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,790	The biggest concern is our defense, Lipscomb had quite a bit of success with their guards driving to the basket and Xavier's guards are significantly better. Xavier's big men aren't exactly all that big, but they can shoot it from three. I'm guessing the are basically going to play a 5 out motion on offense and force Rap/Vogt to guard the perimeter (or go to the bench). Our guards are going to need to play D without any big backing them up in the paint if they make a mistake. On the other side, Vogt/Rap need to really pound it in the interior to take advantage of their size. Given our shooting last game, don't be surprised if Xavier plays zone to try to take Vogt/Rap out of the game and force our guards to show they can hit threes. Somebody needs to hit some threes to prevent them from just collapsing the interior. Rap has less of a size advantage of offense then he did last game and he didn't do particularly well of taking advantage of the mismatch. Vogt has a pretty big size mismatch though, so one major story of the game is going to be Freemantle/Vogt, who can score on the other and who can guard the other. As Waterhead says, we probably need Eason, Dou or Davenport to have a good game. One or more of them is going to be called on if Rap/Vogt struggle in their matchup or if our defense struggles to guard the paint. I'm hoping for a close game that goes UC's way. Last edited by skyblade; 12-06-2020 at 01:22 PM.

12-06-2020, 09:33 AM	#12
waterhead Senior Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,298	I expect we are going to have to use one or two of these 3 players a lot. Eason, Dou, Dav. As long as two perform decent (or one really good) and we can avoid super cold shooting by us or super hot shooting by them. I think we win this game...

12-06-2020, 02:34 PM	#14
waterhead Senior Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,298	Keith looking good so far. Mikey with some impressive D. Where is Harvey?

12-06-2020, 02:52 PM	#15
waterhead Senior Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,298	Eason has dialed down the mistakes a little. Saunders was good. Harvey barely played. WTF is up there? Attitude?

12-06-2020, 02:53 PM	#16
Jon Rycek Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,183	Idc we have a lot of talent on this team. They just gotta learn to gel, especially on defense. That’s my biggest concern this year.

12-06-2020, 02:53 PM	#17
Bcatfollower Epic Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,218	Just want to make a few 3s... is that to much to ask???

12-06-2020, 03:05 PM	#18
skyblade Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,790	We have missed open 3's, they have missed open 3's. Not a lot of defense is being played. Xavier's biggest weakness has been TO's, we've gotten a lot of fast break points.

12-06-2020, 03:06 PM	#19
waterhead Senior Moderator Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 9,298	Keith put up some I’ll advised 3s. Raps shot looks horrendous. Just take good set 3s off the pass and they will go in

12-06-2020, 03:14 PM	#20
TheLivingLegend Epic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Nati Posts: 3,837	Our defense needs major improvement... Clean up backdoor layups and we can win