Sporting News preseason top 100

AAABearcat · 05-28-2010, 08:43 AM

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-...season-top-100

41st for UC? really? A complete lack of respect and another nail on the perception cross of BCS rankings. You would think the last 2 years would garner more respect than this; but it is blatantly obvious that some worship at the alters of their favorite conferences.
This preview would be laughable if it were not for the impact on the final rankings; giving a tacit approval and cover for the actual voters to downgrade UC's rankings.
Another year of starting at the bottom of the hill having to climb over teams to reach the BCS top with no chance of making the championship game; unless all the teams higher lose.

AAABearcat · 05-28-2010, 09:02 AM

In 2009; the preseason average consensus ranking for UC was 32; which includes a computer poll, only Athlon had UC in the top 25.
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/p...ison_2009.html

In 2008, UC was not ranked in any of the preseason mags; but the computers had them at 17 with a final of 19.
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/p...ison_2008.html

After 2 years of being dead wrong on UC; they still are not giving UC any respect.

Little Danny · 05-28-2010, 09:07 AM

I have never seen the hatred/disrespect for a program on a national level that UC has. I can understand why people hate Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, et al--- they are a historically successful program with a lot of $$$ and people are envious. On the flip side, people usually always love the underdog, the little guy who has come from nowhere--- Boise State, TCU, Utah, USF, Kanasas State, Northwestern of the 90's----- but....

They do not love UC in that same way. UC is personified as the intruder who is trying to break into your home. UC is the enemy in their eyes. They go out of their way to throw out insults, they pray for UC's demise, they mock the schools academics and they all claim that UC will be once again C-USA bound within a few years after the other conferences gobble up the BE football schools (except UC of course).

I just don't understand why they are this way against a particular schools... particularly considering what I noted above about people backing David vs. Goliath.

Thegreatone · 05-28-2010, 09:13 AM

I like it.

They are ALWAYS looking at why we can't win the Big East.

In 2008 everyone said without Mauk we were screwed. Maybe could finish 3rd but probably 4th or 5th.

In 2009 everyone jumped on that we lost 10 starters on defense but they never cared to look and see we have tons on contribitors back. Our defense really only have to replace 4 or 5.

In 2010 it is that Brian Kelly is no longer there. Nevermind that our offense is going to be downright sick and our defense is going to be improved (no more Bob Diaco).

We will be picked to finish 3rd or so and Pitt will be picked to win it again. That is fine. Zach Collaros is a winner. He has won everywhere he has played. I am OK with it.

IS IT SEPT 4th YET?????

AAABearcat · 05-28-2010, 09:20 AM

The only problem with these pollsters picking UC low is that at the end of year, perception matters to the bowl representatives. It's one thing to pick UC 3rd/4th in the league, but when the 2nd team is a top 25 pick and you are 41st, it can have an impact on bowl reps at the end of the year. If we do well, we need a bowl that pays more than what our perception will get us.

AAABearcat · 05-28-2010, 09:22 AM

I forgot to mention the 800lb gorilla in the corner, BCS expansion talks and the perception of UC's program; these polls do not help us.

swg · 05-28-2010, 09:29 AM

I like being the underdog, but being ranked so low makes it hard to rise to the top even if the team wins. Bias towards other schools and conferences needs to change (By our doing).

Little Danny · 05-28-2010, 11:43 AM

Keep in mind our ranking int he AP Poll and The Coaches Poll is what matter, not The Sporting News 100. I am guessing the AP and The Coaches Poll will have us higher than 41 (although I am not confident we will be in their top 25).

What is scary is that some of the coaches and AP writers are too lazy to investigate themselves and will use TSN, Phil Steele, et al. to justify their picks. Remember last year that guy down in Louisiana did not even have UC in the Top 25 for like half of the season (or maybe even later IIRC).

Thegreatone · 06-01-2010, 10:00 AM

I am hoping for 17-23. Get inside the Top 25 and if you start 4-0 we are Top 15-10

Kingsley Court · 06-01-2010, 01:39 PM

You are going to say you don't understand the ranking? UC just lost their coach, two/three years of good football isn't going to change the voters mind, especially after a coaching change. 41 seems a little bit low, but I'm not mad they aren't in the top 25.

People don't love boise state and TCU. It has taken a while for Boise State to get the respect they have now. As for TCU, don't they have almost everybody returning from the year they had last year, including the coach?! I think you guys are trying a little to hard to be "disrespected." If Kelly stayed I would have been shocked to not be in the top 25, but not now after he left.

05-28-2010, 08:43 AM	#1
AAABearcat Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 123	Sporting News preseason top 100 http://www.sportingnews.com/college-...season-top-100 41st for UC? really? A complete lack of respect and another nail on the perception cross of BCS rankings. You would think the last 2 years would garner more respect than this; but it is blatantly obvious that some worship at the alters of their favorite conferences. This preview would be laughable if it were not for the impact on the final rankings; giving a tacit approval and cover for the actual voters to downgrade UC's rankings. Another year of starting at the bottom of the hill having to climb over teams to reach the BCS top with no chance of making the championship game; unless all the teams higher lose.

06-01-2010, 01:39 PM	#10
Kingsley Court Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,252	You are going to say you don't understand the ranking? UC just lost their coach, two/three years of good football isn't going to change the voters mind, especially after a coaching change. 41 seems a little bit low, but I'm not mad they aren't in the top 25. People don't love boise state and TCU. It has taken a while for Boise State to get the respect they have now. As for TCU, don't they have almost everybody returning from the year they had last year, including the coach?! I think you guys are trying a little to hard to be "disrespected." If Kelly stayed I would have been shocked to not be in the top 25, but not now after he left. __________________ "I deserve to be negative repped"-Thegreatone "You better answer my texts or your banned."-Thegreatone

05-28-2010, 09:02 AM	#2
AAABearcat Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 123	In 2009; the preseason average consensus ranking for UC was 32; which includes a computer poll, only Athlon had UC in the top 25. http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/p...ison_2009.html In 2008, UC was not ranked in any of the preseason mags; but the computers had them at 17 with a final of 19. http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/p...ison_2008.html After 2 years of being dead wrong on UC; they still are not giving UC any respect.

05-28-2010, 09:07 AM	#3
Little Danny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 367	I have never seen the hatred/disrespect for a program on a national level that UC has. I can understand why people hate Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, et al--- they are a historically successful program with a lot of $$$ and people are envious. On the flip side, people usually always love the underdog, the little guy who has come from nowhere--- Boise State, TCU, Utah, USF, Kanasas State, Northwestern of the 90's----- but.... They do not love UC in that same way. UC is personified as the intruder who is trying to break into your home. UC is the enemy in their eyes. They go out of their way to throw out insults, they pray for UC's demise, they mock the schools academics and they all claim that UC will be once again C-USA bound within a few years after the other conferences gobble up the BE football schools (except UC of course). I just don't understand why they are this way against a particular schools... particularly considering what I noted above about people backing David vs. Goliath.

05-28-2010, 09:13 AM	#4
Thegreatone Epic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,187	I like it. They are ALWAYS looking at why we can't win the Big East. In 2008 everyone said without Mauk we were screwed. Maybe could finish 3rd but probably 4th or 5th. In 2009 everyone jumped on that we lost 10 starters on defense but they never cared to look and see we have tons on contribitors back. Our defense really only have to replace 4 or 5. In 2010 it is that Brian Kelly is no longer there. Nevermind that our offense is going to be downright sick and our defense is going to be improved (no more Bob Diaco). We will be picked to finish 3rd or so and Pitt will be picked to win it again. That is fine. Zach Collaros is a winner. He has won everywhere he has played. I am OK with it. IS IT SEPT 4th YET?????

05-28-2010, 09:20 AM	#5
AAABearcat Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 123	The only problem with these pollsters picking UC low is that at the end of year, perception matters to the bowl representatives. It's one thing to pick UC 3rd/4th in the league, but when the 2nd team is a top 25 pick and you are 41st, it can have an impact on bowl reps at the end of the year. If we do well, we need a bowl that pays more than what our perception will get us.

05-28-2010, 09:22 AM	#6
AAABearcat Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 123	I forgot to mention the 800lb gorilla in the corner, BCS expansion talks and the perception of UC's program; these polls do not help us.

05-28-2010, 09:29 AM	#7
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	I like being the underdog, but being ranked so low makes it hard to rise to the top even if the team wins. Bias towards other schools and conferences needs to change (By our doing).

05-28-2010, 11:43 AM	#8
Little Danny Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 367	Keep in mind our ranking int he AP Poll and The Coaches Poll is what matter, not The Sporting News 100. I am guessing the AP and The Coaches Poll will have us higher than 41 (although I am not confident we will be in their top 25). What is scary is that some of the coaches and AP writers are too lazy to investigate themselves and will use TSN, Phil Steele, et al. to justify their picks. Remember last year that guy down in Louisiana did not even have UC in the Top 25 for like half of the season (or maybe even later IIRC).

06-01-2010, 10:00 AM	#9
Thegreatone Epic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,187	I am hoping for 17-23. Get inside the Top 25 and if you start 4-0 we are Top 15-10