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Old 02-11-2011, 12:17 PM   #11
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Agreed but I think you'll agree with me on this. It's not the same thing.
Absolutely. makes you wonder what the difference is? Coaching? Effort? Team chemistry?

Idk, I just really thought UC should have been better last year. I understand the process, but they had some pretty solid talent.

Im not sure this team is over the hump yet, hopefully im wrong...
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:08 PM   #12
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I've been trying to figure this team out too! I wonder if the players are really not that good are the coach just can't get the best out of them! I know Mick teams when he had Toyloy, Cincy St kid they played hard! With this group mainly Gates they seem to not care! I wonder if any other coach can get Gates going are if thats who he is! I do see hope with Killa,JJ and the recruits! Your thoughts!
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:10 PM   #13
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I've been trying to figure this team out too! I wonder if the players are really not that good are the coach just can't get the best out of them! I know Mick teams when he had Toyloy, Cincy St kid they played hard! With this group mainly Gates they seem to not care! I wonder if any other coach can get Gates going are if thats who he is! I do see hope with Killa,JJ and the recruits! Your thoughts!
That's an excellent illustration of how players need to take ownership of their effort. They played very hard and beat some people they shouldn't have because of it. When you don't have depth it's difficult because you can't pull people. Mick is accountable at the end of the day. It's his team. The truth is there's only so much you can do.
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:33 PM   #14
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That's an excellent illustration of how players need to take ownership of their effort. They played very hard and beat some people they shouldn't have because of it. When you don't have depth it's difficult because you can't pull people. Mick is accountable at the end of the day. It's his team. The truth is there's only so much you can do.
I honestly froth at the mouth thinking how much better this team would be if they simply had John Williamson on it. He really was a very productive guy for this program.
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:00 AM   #15
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I don't agree that they get ripped. I believe most agree that the OOC sked wasn't that strong. I think what bothers some people is that some discredit the performance of the team in the OOC because of the opponents.

But, facts are that they dismantled virtually every opponent including XU by 20 and UD by 34....both teams who are now in the Top 60 in the RPI and have a chance to go to the NCAA.

And I think Oscar should or probably does realize the difference in scheduling philosophy in this era compared to the Crum era. Why go nuts in the OOC when you have 18 brutal BE games? In the CUSA, Great Midwest days you had to schedule big OOC because your conference schedule was not nearly as strong.
I believe from the beginning I had my doubts about this team. And YES I was ripped to pieces.

I expressed concerns about the offense even when the team was putting up 70/80. I did not see much ball movement. I saw a lot of wide open 3 attemps that were falling.

My questions and concerns to the board were, how is this team going to respond when the 3's aren't falling? Cashmere, Bishop, Davis and Dixon were knocking down those wide open 3's regulary.

However I did not see much of an offense to get those shots. The smaller teams were so worried about Gates that they packed the paint. It was easy to sit outside the 3 point line and hit an open 3.

My concerns have now become reality

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I honestly froth at the mouth thinking how much better this team would be if they simply had John Williamson on it. He really was a very productive guy for this program.
John Williamson was awesome for this program. Him on this team would be very very nice.
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He provided some solid inside and intermediate scoring. Which this team lacks.
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