2017-18 Stats/Rankings

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by waterhead

I think we shot ourselves in the foot big time with that Florida game. There were a lot of losses in front of us that week. This week not a lot of losses in front of us. We could have climbed 5 spots if we beat FLA when we were 17 but now we are 25 and aren't going to climb that much in the polls. Probably close to a 10 spot difference in rankings if we beat FLA.

Oh well...I think we found a nice groove in the past couple of games between great D and decent O.

the Florida loss was very disappointing loss. 21 TO's did us in and we still had a shot to win

[justinhub2003]

the Reddit Poll has us at #19 which i think is fair.

I voted us at #17 just because we had a week that included 2 double digit Wins against top 100 opponents and not many other teams had wins like that this week.

Rest of my poll: (admittedly spent less time this week on it and submitted 5 min before deadline)

1. Villanova
2. Mich state
3. Arizona State
4. Duke
5. Kentucky
6. UNC
7. Miami
8. West Virginia
9. TCU
10. Xavier
11. Texas A&M
12. Purdue
13. Arizona
14. Gonzaga
15. Oklahoma
16. Virginia
17. Cincinnati
18. wichita State
19. Kansas
20. Baylor
21. Seton Hall
22. Texas Tech
23. Creighton
24. Florida State
25. Tennessee

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

the Reddit Poll has us at #19 which i think is fair.

I voted us at #17 just because we had a week that included 2 double digit Wins against top 100 opponents and not many other teams had wins like that this week.

Rest of my poll: (admittedly spent less time this week on it and submitted 5 min before deadline)

1. Villanova
2. Mich state
3. Arizona State
4. Duke
5. Kentucky
6. UNC
7. Miami
8. West Virginia
9. TCU
10. Xavier
11. Texas A&M
12. Purdue
13. Arizona
14. Gonzaga
15. Oklahoma
16. Virginia
17. Cincinnati
18. wichita State
19. Kansas
20. Baylor
21. Seton Hall
22. Texas Tech
23. Creighton
24. Florida State
25. Tennessee

Funny to see Arizona State #3 and KU #19. Wonder what that'll be in a couple months.

[waterhead]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

the Reddit Poll has us at #19 which i think is fair.

I voted us at #17 just because we had a week that included 2 double digit Wins against top 100 opponents and not many other teams had wins like that this week.

Rest of my poll: (admittedly spent less time this week on it and submitted 5 min before deadline)

1. Villanova
2. Mich state
3. Arizona State
4. Duke
5. Kentucky
6. UNC
7. Miami
8. West Virginia
9. TCU
10. Xavier
11. Texas A&M
12. Purdue
13. Arizona
14. Gonzaga
15. Oklahoma
16. Virginia
17. Cincinnati
18. wichita State
19. Kansas
20. Baylor
21. Seton Hall
22. Texas Tech
23. Creighton
24. Florida State
25. Tennessee

Not sure where you had WSU before this game but they were beat by a team you have as #15 now and they were #3 in the AP poll before this. That's a big drop for a #15 loss no?

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by waterhead

Not sure where you had WSU before this game but they were beat by a team you have as #15 now and they were #3 in the AP poll before this. That's a big drop for a #15 loss no?

You get beat at home like that (it was never a game) and I'm losing faith in you really quick.

Real Top 10 teams defend home court.

They have been given this benefit of the doubt that UC hasn't gotten all year and In my poll Im no longer doing that with them. They've looked like shit in multiple games and allowed 90+ on their home floor. thats not elite.


I think they can get much much better when Mcduffie is back, but they have 2 losses now, 1 to a now unranked ND team and 1 at home.

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

Funny to see Arizona State #3 and KU #19. Wonder what that'll be in a couple months.

I have little Faith their top 5 ranking holds but you can't deny them at this point. They have possibly the best resume in basketball and can just flat out score.
4 top 50 wins and 6 top 75 wins.

Against Vandy they took exactly ZERO mid range shots. It was either in the paint or from 3. Thats really smart basketball.


Kenpom metrics has them at 31. But what I like about them is that they aren't a one trick pony. If you stop they 3, they will take you off the dribble and either score at the rim or get fouled. They have a really balanced attacked and 24% of their scoring comes from the Free throw line (15th in the country in that category)


Meanwhile, Kansas is a one trick pony. They lack any meaningful depth and if the 3 point shot isn't falling, they will lose every time. They get fouled ALMOST NEVER and have a free throw rate of #350!!!!!.

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

I have little Faith their top 5 ranking holds but you can't deny them at this point. They have possibly the best resume in basketball and can just flat out score.
4 top 50 wins and 6 top 75 wins.

Against Vandy they took exactly ZERO mid range shots. It was either in the paint or from 3. Thats really smart basketball.


Kenpom metrics has them at 31. But what I like about them is that they aren't a one trick pony. If you stop they 3, they will take you off the dribble and either score at the rim or get fouled. They have a really balanced attacked and 24% of their scoring comes from the Free throw line (15th in the country in that category)


Meanwhile, Kansas is a one trick pony. They lack any meaningful depth and if the 3 point shot isn't falling, they will lose every time. They get fouled ALMOST NEVER and have a free throw rate of #350!!!!!.

We'll see if Sam Cunliffe helps KU's depth at all. I know their fans aren't happy with Svi (they never are) and Malik Newman.

[jacobkdoyle]

Broome and Clark are already in the 1,000 point club. Washington is at 987 and Evans is at 923. Pretty cool.

[cincrulz11]

not sure where to put this

BOSTON – University of Cincinnati senior forward Kyle Washington (Champlin, Minn./NC State) has been named the Lute Olson award national player of the week.

The 6-foot-9 senior helped the Bearcats to a pair of wins last week. On Tuesday, Washington matched his season-high with 16 points against Mississippi State. He was 8 of 15 from the field and pulled down five rebounds. On Saturday, he had his best game on the season, with 19 points at UCLA. He was 7-of-11 from the field and added four rebounds, four steals and two blocks.


2017-18 LUTE OLSEN NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE WEEK
(Dec. 18): Kyle Washington, Cincinnati
(Dec. 11): Jock Landale, Saint Mary's
(Dec. 4): Devonte' Graham, Kansas
(Nov. 27): Bonzie Colson, Notre Dame
(Nov. 20): Grayson Allen, Duke
(Nov. 13): Kendrick Nunn, Oakland

[jacobkdoyle]

Points League Scoring:

Clark 385.2 (1.31 points per minute)
Evans 323 (1.00)
Cumberland 237.9 (0.83)
Washington 227.3 (0.97)
Broome 200.5 (0.90)
Jenifer 132 (0.58)
Scott 115.1 (0.81)
Moore 95.8 (0.83)
Williams 91.6 (0.66)
Brooks 88.9 (0.82)
Nsoseme 51.9 (0.89)
Diarra 43.7 (1.46)