Bracketology

[cincrulz11]

Originally Posted by Alum2013

True, I get all that. I guess when I think if quality wins I think of actual quality wins, not this quadrant 1 and 2 nonsense (see rant in Games of Important thread).

the quadrants system is actually a big upgrade (winning on the road is much tougher than at home), its just using rpi to figure out the quadrants is awful.


it benefits us a great deal this year though, so go rpi!

[Jon Rycek]

Originally Posted by Alum2013

True, I get all that. I guess when I think if quality wins I think of actual quality wins, not this quadrant 1 and 2 nonsense (see rant in Games of Important thread).

It's not about what Alum2013 from Cincinnati thinks bough. It's about what the committee actually uses..

[justinhub2003]

That second round matchup is going to be tough for us.

Lunardi has us playing seton hall. That’s gonna be a tough physical game if that happened

[tonka]

I am hopeful that we can get a 2 seed with Auburn or Tennessee as the 3 and Xavier as the 1. I think we matchup well with those SEC schools and I would love another crack at the Muskies. As for potential 7-10 seeds, I would like to avoid Virginia Tech and maybe Nevada. I am confident we could beat them but VT has defeated the top ACC teams and Nevada has the Martin twins who are talented. I feel good though no matter who we match up with.

[Queens_NYC]

I'd feel confident going up against any SEC team this year.

[sedziobs]

Bracket preview seed list, with records on Feb 11 in red and current records in blue. (Group 1, Group 2, bad losses)

1. Virginia (7-1, 5-1) (9-1, 5-1)
2. Villanova (8-1, 5-1) (8-3, 7-0, 1)
3. Xavier (7-3, 7-0) (6-3, 8-1)
4. Purdue (5-3, 6-1) (6-4, 5-2)
5. Auburn (4-3, 5-0) (7-4, 4-2)
6. Kansas (9-4, 5-1, 1) (10-3, 8-3, 1)
7. Duke (4-4, 4-1) (6-4, 7-2)
8. Cincinnati (4-2, 7-0) (5-4, 8-0)
9. Clemson (4-4, 6-0) (4-7, 6-1)
10. Texas Tech (4-3, 7-1) (5-6, 7-2)
11. Michigan State (3-2, 5-1) (3-4, 5-0)
12. North Carolina (7-5, 5-1, 1) (11-7, 2-1, 1)
13. Tennessee (4-6, 5-0) (5-6, 6-1)
14. Ohio State (2-4, 6-0, 1) (3-5, 6-2, 1)
15. Arizona (3-3, 6-3) (4-3, 8-3, 1)
16. Oklahoma (6-5, 2-3) (6-8, 3-4)

New protected seeds on bracketmatrix:
Michigan (6-5, 5-1, 1)
Wichita St (4-3, 10-2, 1)
West Virginia (7-7, 6-1, 1)

Michigan St has done basically nothing since the preview, so I don't see how they move up from #11. Quite a few have worse resumes now (Xavier, Purdue, Clemson, Texas Tech, OSU, Oklahoma). Only Kansas, Duke, and UNC (plus the newcomers) improved significantly.

[tonka]

Originally Posted by sedziobs

Bracket preview seed list, with records on Feb 11 in red and current records in blue. (Group 1, Group 2, bad losses)

1. Virginia (7-1, 5-1) (9-1, 5-1)
2. Villanova (8-1, 5-1) (8-3, 7-0, 1)
3. Xavier (7-3, 7-0) (6-3, 8-1)
4. Purdue (5-3, 6-1) (6-4, 5-2)
5. Auburn (4-3, 5-0) (7-4, 4-2)
6. Kansas (9-4, 5-1, 1) (10-3, 8-3, 1)
7. Duke (4-4, 4-1) (6-4, 7-2)
8. Cincinnati (4-2, 7-0) (5-4, 8-0)
9. Clemson (4-4, 6-0) (4-7, 6-1)
10. Texas Tech (4-3, 7-1) (5-6, 7-2)
11. Michigan State (3-2, 5-1) (3-4, 5-0)
12. North Carolina (7-5, 5-1, 1) (11-7, 2-1, 1)
13. Tennessee (4-6, 5-0) (5-6, 6-1)
14. Ohio State (2-4, 6-0, 1) (3-5, 6-2, 1)
15. Arizona (3-3, 6-3) (4-3, 8-3, 1)
16. Oklahoma (6-5, 2-3) (6-8, 3-4)

New protected seeds on bracketmatrix:
Michigan (6-5, 5-1, 1)
Wichita St (4-3, 10-2, 1)
West Virginia (7-7, 6-1, 1)

Michigan St has done basically nothing since the preview, so I don't see how they move up from #11. Quite a few have worse resumes now (Xavier, Purdue, Clemson, Texas Tech, OSU, Oklahoma). Only Kansas, Duke, and UNC (plus the newcomers) improved significantly.

The only way I see Michigan State moving up is because Auburn, Texas Tech, and Clemson all performed worse than them over the past 4 weeks. I agree though, they do not have a super strong resume. A losing quad 1 record will keep them on the 3 line IMO.

[Jon Rycek]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

That second round matchup is going to be tough for us.

Lunardi has us playing seton hall. That’s gonna be a tough physical game if that happened

See I think we would match up well with them, they get most of their scoring from a few players. They don't have a ton of size. And certainly aren't used to playing defenses like ours, even if they did beat Texas Tech.

[Jon Rycek]

Originally Posted by sedziobs

Bracket preview seed list, with records on Feb 11 in red and current records in blue. (Group 1, Group 2, bad losses)

1. Virginia (7-1, 5-1) (9-1, 5-1)
2. Villanova (8-1, 5-1) (8-3, 7-0, 1)
3. Xavier (7-3, 7-0) (6-3, 8-1)
4. Purdue (5-3, 6-1) (6-4, 5-2)
5. Auburn (4-3, 5-0) (7-4, 4-2)
6. Kansas (9-4, 5-1, 1) (10-3, 8-3, 1)
7. Duke (4-4, 4-1) (6-4, 7-2)
8. Cincinnati (4-2, 7-0) (5-4, 8-0)
9. Clemson (4-4, 6-0) (4-7, 6-1)
10. Texas Tech (4-3, 7-1) (5-6, 7-2)
11. Michigan State (3-2, 5-1) (3-4, 5-0)
12. North Carolina (7-5, 5-1, 1) (11-7, 2-1, 1)
13. Tennessee (4-6, 5-0) (5-6, 6-1)
14. Ohio State (2-4, 6-0, 1) (3-5, 6-2, 1)
15. Arizona (3-3, 6-3) (4-3, 8-3, 1)
16. Oklahoma (6-5, 2-3) (6-8, 3-4)

New protected seeds on bracketmatrix:
Michigan (6-5, 5-1, 1)
Wichita St (4-3, 10-2, 1)
West Virginia (7-7, 6-1, 1)

Michigan St has done basically nothing since the preview, so I don't see how they move up from #11. Quite a few have worse resumes now (Xavier, Purdue, Clemson, Texas Tech, OSU, Oklahoma). Only Kansas, Duke, and UNC (plus the newcomers) improved significantly.

Yeah despite bracket matrix having them as a 2, the committee already said what they think of them. And they didn't do anything to really add to that resume, so no reason to think they would be higher than us now

[sedziobs]

Originally Posted by Jon Rycek

Yeah despite bracket matrix having them as a 2, the committee already said what they think of them. And they didn't do anything to really add to that resume, so no reason to think they would be higher than us now

I agree. People like to talk about them beating Notre Dame with Bonzi Colson, but the committee knew about that on Feb 11th. I'm not buying the idea that Notre Dame is that much better with Bonzi anyway. With him in the lineup, ND is (1-2, 1-0, 2). They have two bad losses with Bonzi.