Unusual Suspects

bearcat jeff · 11-17-2013, 10:13 AM

Let's remember shaq didn't see the court much last season. The game hasn't slowed down for him yet and his flat shot undermines many of his attempts. The next three games will be big for him in terms of getting his feet under him before the New Mexico, Xavier, and Pitts of the world.

CaptDale · 11-17-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by david aka the TYZ

Shaq didn't play bad yesterday. My point was more he hasn't shown the improvement we were all hoping for. App State is not very good team. They had nobody that could come close to matching Shaq's athleticism. So he should've looked good. He's a starter and seeing good minutes. He could dominate vs. a team like that. Shaq made some nice plays here and there but he was far from dominating. And again, he's young and still improving. I'm not trying to bash him I just haven't seen much different in his game.

Watched the game on ESPN3. One of the announcers was Terry Nelson, UC '93 - Elite 8. He seemed to think Shaquille could be the "next coming". Sang his praises regularly throughout the broadcast. I noticed Shaquille's shots and FTs had a trace more arc to them. That's good. He has such a great vertical leap that it probably seems unnatural for him to shoot upward. He'll learn. I like ESPN3. If they have the game in their archives, you can retrieve it from as far back as 30 days - for those interested.

**waterhead** · 11-17-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by david aka the TYZ

Shaq didn't play bad yesterday. My point was more he hasn't shown the improvement we were all hoping for. App State is not very good team. They had nobody that could come close to matching Shaq's athleticism. So he should've looked good. He's a starter and seeing good minutes. He could dominate vs. a team like that. Shaq made some nice plays here and there but he was far from dominating. And again, he's young and still improving. I'm not trying to bash him I just haven't seen much different in his game.

Ok I can agree we haven't seen the improvement we seem to be watching in some players but ST without improvment was looking really good at the end of last season and I thought we saw that yesterday. Granted against insuperior talent.

Listening to the broadcast on ESPN3 i heard, what I felt, were two UNBELIEVABLE statements about ST. It was said twice...but I don't know if it's a joke or not. Shaq has gained 30 lbs in 2 years and has gained 5" on his vertical leap (in one year I think). For one I can't see the weight on his frame and for two how do you gain that much vertical with 30 more LB's. Muscle? If that is the case...ST has definitely been working hard. If the above is true...we should see it at some point this year. Mick says he doesn't quite understand his role yet...but when that happens...look out.

**waterhead** · 11-18-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by waterhead

Ok I can agree we haven't seen the improvement we seem to be watching in some players but ST without improvment was looking really good at the end of last season and I thought we saw that yesterday. Granted against insuperior talent.

Listening to the broadcast on ESPN3 i heard, what I felt, were two UNBELIEVABLE statements about ST. It was said twice...but I don't know if it's a joke or not. Shaq has gained 30 lbs in 2 years and has gained 5" on his vertical leap (in one year I think). For one I can't see the weight on his frame and for two how do you gain that much vertical with 30 more LB's. Muscle? If that is the case...ST has definitely been working hard. If the above is true...we should see it at some point this year. Mick says he doesn't quite understand his role yet...but when that happens...look out.

After finally listening to Cronin's post game presser it seems all he is looking for this year from Thomas is defensive effort and rebounding. Cronin will take 8-10 points a game from Thomas if Thomas is content with 8-10 points a game...rather than pressing for more as a soph.

He brought up SK and how he just wanted SK to stay on the court by playing D and that his offense would eventually come. When you get put into a conversation with SK the coach knows the potential...he just wants you to "get it" that a soph is TOO early to expect to be getting 15-20 a game. The offensive game will come to Thomas if he is patient. I thought it was a great sign that Cronin put TR and ST in the post game presser. Usually that honor is going to go to players he felt deserved it for one reason or another.

I thought they both deserved it...and maybe TC as well...but he's not going to put a frosh in a presser this early.

Chad Brendel · 11-18-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by waterhead

After finally listening to Cronin's post game presser it seems all he is looking for this year from Thomas is defensive effort and rebounding. Cronin will take 8-10 points a game from Thomas if Thomas is content with 8-10 points a game...rather than pressing for more as a soph.

He brought up SK and how he just wanted SK to stay on the court by playing D and that his offense would eventually come. When you get put into a conversation with SK the coach knows the potential...he just wants you to "get it" that a soph is TOO early to expect to be getting 15-20 a game. The offensive game will come to Thomas if he is patient. I thought it was a great sign that Cronin put TR and ST in the post game presser. Usually that honor is going to go to players he felt deserved it for one reason or another.

I thought they both deserved it...and maybe TC as well...but he's not going to put a frosh in a presser this early.

Players are requested by the media for post game. Only guys off limits are the freshmen...

bearcat jeff · 11-18-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Brendel

Players are requested by the media for post game. Only guys off limits are the freshmen...

Chad what's the latest on Strickland? I know he is eligible for his scholly any word on when a decision on this seasons eligibility will come down?

Bearcat_NTS · 11-18-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad Brendel

Players are requested by the media for post game. Only guys off limits are the freshmen...

Freshman are allowed to speak to the media after the first semester ends....

Chad Brendel · 11-19-2013, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat_NTS

Freshman are allowed to speak to the media after the first semester ends....

Usually. That's a Mick decision...

Chad Brendel · 11-19-2013, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bearcat jeff

Chad what's the latest on Strickland? I know he is eligible for his scholly any word on when a decision on this seasons eligibility will come down?

Still in appeal process...

**waterhead** · 11-19-2013, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad Brendel

Players are requested by the media for post game. Only guys off limits are the freshmen...

Interesting thanks. Which media get to make requests?

11-17-2013, 10:13 AM	#11
bearcat jeff Hoops Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,502	Let's remember shaq didn't see the court much last season. The game hasn't slowed down for him yet and his flat shot undermines many of his attempts. The next three games will be big for him in terms of getting his feet under him before the New Mexico, Xavier, and Pitts of the world.