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Old 03-04-2016, 11:40 AM   #1011
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See if this sounds familiar...It's the end of the year and we're scoring in the 50s. And we are undermanned with only 6 usuable players (that's if you include DeBerry and Johnson).

Why again is it better for us to leave scholarships on the table in EVERY class?
I think it should be based on players available and how good the players are on the current roster. However this group has proven that nobody should be safe. All could be recruited over. If they can get Bowman, do it. I have real concerns about Justin Jenifer ever being the starting point guard of a top level team. I feel the recruiting is getting better, 2011 and 2012 just killed us. Last two years our only 4 year seniors were Jermaine Sanders and Shaq Thomas. Two extremely average (at best) division one college basketball players. However Clark, Evans, Cumberland, and Washington all seem to be big time players. That trend has to continue and get better. The season isnt over. I think they win on Sunday and get in the dance. From there anything can happen. Season can still be salvaged. Not that I'd bet on it....
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:55 AM   #1012
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I hear you Waterhead. But we're going to walk the ball up the floor on every single possession of postseason basketball. Hard to make a run like that...UC fans would know .
So you want them to push the tempo when they have 3 guys playing 37+ minutes and only 6 guys that can give them anything?
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:03 PM   #1013
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So you want them to push the tempo when they have 3 guys playing 37+ minutes and only 6 guys that can give them anything?
Let's be honest, it is more like 4 players that give us anything. But to answer your question, I don't even know. Cronin hasn't constructed very good rosters since the Sweet 16 team. I'd love to say just play everyone and press, but we clearly aren't built for that. Moore and DeBerry are 2 of the ONLY 3 bench players. And most of the rest of our guys are slow and out of shape.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:07 PM   #1014
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Let's be honest, it is more like 4 players that give us anything. But to answer your question, I don't even know. Cronin hasn't constructed very good rosters since the Sweet 16 team. I'd love to say just play everyone and press, but we clearly aren't built for that. Moore and DeBerry are 2 of the ONLY 3 bench players. And most of the rest of our guys are slow and out of shape.
The truth is, we are a slow plodding team. It's just the personnel of the roster. I was never impressed with Jenifer's tape from the moment he committed. He's supposedly very quick. I haven't seen him be able to blow by the guy guarding him like all the Houston guards did last night.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:09 PM   #1015
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The truth is, we are a slow plodding team. It's just the personnel of the roster. I was never impressed with Jenifer's tape from the moment he committed. He's supposedly very quick. I haven't seen him be able to blow by the guy guarding him like all the Houston guards did last night.
More work on feet, core, and cardio this offseason is desperately needed. I don't care how much a guy benches, tell me who squats the most.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:30 PM   #1016
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I think it should be based on players available and how good the players are on the current roster. However this group has proven that nobody should be safe. All could be recruited over. If they can get Bowman, do it. I have real concerns about Justin Jenifer ever being the starting point guard of a top level team. I feel the recruiting is getting better, 2011 and 2012 just killed us. Last two years our only 4 year seniors were Jermaine Sanders and Shaq Thomas. Two extremely average (at best) division one college basketball players. However Clark, Evans, Cumberland, and Washington all seem to be big time players. That trend has to continue and get better. The season isnt over. I think they win on Sunday and get in the dance. From there anything can happen. Season can still be salvaged. Not that I'd bet on it....
Jack I think we need to fill the roster. We end up with SRs like Guyn, Thomas, Sanders, Nyarsuk, DeBerry, and soon to be Johnson all the time (these guys are all post-1st NCAA appearance under Cronin...so post-rebuild). Then we're forced to rely on these guys for significant roles. Shouldn't be hard to find HS guards and JUCO big bodies to compete and give us more depth (couldn't we have signed KJ Walton?). I couldn't agree more on Bowman. Bring him in. A wing and a JUCO big too are needed imo. Let 13 guys battle it out to fill out the depth chart every year. Then only the strong survive...instead of having borderline D1 players in the regular rotation bc they are literally the last resort for scholarship players. And even if the back of the roster guys end up at the same level as the short bench we see today, at least we aren't always going to be sitting here at this point in the year undermanned if injuries should happen.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:34 PM   #1017
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If a guy like Quadri Moore wants to be scholarship #13, I'm fine with him staying. I don't want him around in any other scenario bc that would mean a waste on his scholarship and at least 1 open scholarship. Enough of that.

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Old 03-04-2016, 12:36 PM   #1018
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Even if they won last night the issues still remain. The recruiting has to improve. Mick you are on the clock for the 2017 class...
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:37 PM   #1019
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Even if they won last night the issues still remain. The recruiting has to improve. Mick you are on the clock for the 2017 class...
110% agree.
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:18 PM   #1020
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So you want them to push the tempo when they have 3 guys playing 37+ minutes and only 6 guys that can give them anything?
Yes, they still could have run more. Houston isn't that much deeper and they ran. Clark was 0-6 but played 38 minutes. Cronin could have easily given Deberry more minutes to keep them fresher. Ellis didn't deserve 27 minutes.

When you are down 12+ with less than 10 minutes to go, you simply don't walk the ball up the court.
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