09-06-2019, 11:53 AM | #61 | |
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As far as Harvey, you have to take him. It’s not even a question. We are in no position to turn away top talent. Especially if you are a new coach trying to start something big. |
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09-06-2019, 09:58 PM | #62 | |
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The Madsen twins publicly acknowledged that they wanted to be recruited individually and weren't a package deal. Your argument that Gabe only wanted to play with schools that also recruited his twin is b.s., and I'm calling you out on it. It's honestly quite funny reading your posts. Gabe is a high risk because because his brother may leave? And this after you say "We don't know how much Mason would influence Gabe's decision" - so we have no clue, yet it's still a high risk? Yea, and Jacob Evans was high risk because he could have gotten home sick going to a school so far away. Wow, there is a possibility one would leave? Unheard of. I guess there is no possibility of other players leaving. Cronin should not have recruited Brooks because there was a possibility he would leave if there was a coaching change. Was Harvey a risk? Perhaps. But what is the risk? He does something and gets kicked off the team? His infraction was pretty minor. You could argue it's a risk not taking a player of his talent. It wasn't like he pushed his girlfriend down the stairs. So let me ask you again since you conveniently ignored it: what was your position on taking Lance Stephenson, Alvin Mitchel, Ellis (twice - once after he had already been kicked off the team), Lawrence, and Jason Henry? |
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09-07-2019, 10:41 AM | #63 | |
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Any player could leave for a variety of reasons. But no other recruit besides Gabe is going to leave because their brother is unhappy here. It is one more factor that could influence Gabe departing, that a normal recruit does not have, thus higher risk. Can you not read? I said I'm happy with Harvey here and fine with taking a risk here and there. That applies to past players as well. As long as we don't take too many risks and are getting players who wouldn't normally come here is a good strategy. |
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09-08-2019, 08:16 AM | #64 |
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Yes, I followed the recruiting and read and heard them say multiple times that they are not a package deal and wanted to be recruited individually. This is straight out of the horses mouth. Sure they said it'd be nice to play together if the right situation came along, which it did in Cincinnati.
Your logic is absurd for saying Gabe is a higher risk. But since just stated you agree with Brannen's strategy I guess it was a lot of drivel for nothing. I'm with you, I think it's a great strategy. |
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09-09-2019, 08:27 AM | #66 |
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This is not a two scholly for one player deal. That concept is utterly ridiculous!
Unless you don't count the scholarships Cronin offered to guys ranked in the 300-400's. This whole concept of Mason basically being worth as much as an empty roster spot is outrageous, humiliating and not even close to accurate. Anyone who is perpetuating this as a two for 1 deal is being completely disingenuous in order to make their point seem stronger. |
09-09-2019, 10:15 AM | #67 | |
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09-09-2019, 11:27 AM | #68 | |
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Does anyone think we needed another young PG/SG? In 2020 we already have MAW (PG/SG), Saunders (PG), Harvey (PG/SG) and Gabe (SG/SF) as freshmen/sophomores. Where will Mason find minutes in the next few years? Cronin generally offered big men 300-400 rated bigs (harder to get) and at positions where we didn't already have a ton of depth. If Mason was 6'8"+ I'd have no problem with him at his rating. But the low rating, plus him playing a position where we already have plenty of young depth, screams that he's only here because of Gabe. As for those saying it's just the 13th scholarship. It is, but now we have locked it in. Our last 2 scholarships pretty much need to be used on a pair of PF/C's for 2020 (unless Davenport is going to be the backup PF). The 13th scholarship could have been saved to be used on a grad transfer depending on our needs, such as one of the young likely 2020 starters (Prince at PF and MAW at PG) not developing quickly enough or getting injured. Instead we used it on a 300+ rated guy, who is likely going to be the third string PG for the next 3 years. |
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09-09-2019, 11:53 AM | #69 |
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For 2020 I see our depth chart as.
PG: 1. MAW (SO), 2. Saunders (FR) 3. Harvey (SO) or Mason (FR) SG: 1. Moore (SR), 2. Harvey (possibly 1 by years end, SO), 3. Gabe/MAW or Mason SF: 1. Keith (SR), 2. Gabe (FR)/Davenport (RS FR), PF: 1. Prince (RS SO), 2. Davenport (RS FR) (may change if/when we sign a PF), 3. ?? C: 1. Diarra (RS JR), 2. Vogt (RS JR), 3. ?? At C/PF I see us getting one guy who is probably a RS (Traynor for example - probably needs to RS to add muscle) and another guy who can play immediately (at minimum as backup PF). Ideally the RS would be able to play minutes at center (two years to develop behind Diarra/Vogt then start for 3 years), but it depends on who we can get. |
09-09-2019, 01:38 PM | #70 | |
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This doesn't even begin to account for injury at PG or SG. |
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