2016 General Recruiting

~~Bulldog01~~ · 05-20-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TrillCosby

You couldn't be more wrong.

Could be. Savino was supposed to be our money recruiter though.just do quick Google search and recruiting comes up first thing in savino bio.

Bcatfollower · 05-20-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GuyfromNKY

Ok thanks. A big year next year will show a lot to incoming recruits. Next year is very important. We need to get over the hump.

People say this every year.

Bearcat_NTS · 05-20-2015, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GuyfromNKY

Ok thanks. A big year next year will show a lot to incoming recruits. Next year is very important. We need to get over the hump.

No it won't.

bearcat jeff · 05-20-2015, 09:12 PM

UC lost its best recruiter to Oregon.

bearcat jeff · 05-20-2015, 09:20 PM

Cincinnati needs consecutive deep runs in the NCAA. I respect the heck out of Mick as an X and O guy and believe he will always have competitive teams but it is obvious he needs a closer on the staff or the edge that deep tournament runs can give you. Show a player you will win championships (league, CT, NCAA, non conf tournys )consistently and get them noticed and they will come play for you.

Bearcat22 · 05-21-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bearcat jeff

Cincinnati needs consecutive deep runs in the NCAA. I respect the heck out of Mick as an X and O guy and believe he will always have competitive teams but it is obvious he needs a closer on the staff or the edge that deep tournament runs can give you. Show a player you will win championships (league, CT, NCAA, non conf tournys )consistently and get them noticed and they will come play for you.

I think some deep tournament runs would help revive our fanbase but I'm not as sure about recruiting. Exposure on ESPN and getting players to the NBA is probably more of a motivating factor in a college choice.

At one time, Mick said he wants his assistants to be coaches first then recruiters (I'll try to find the article or link). If that's his philosophy, the results we're getting shouldn't be a surprise. We'll get the occasional gym rat that turns himself into a a great player (SK and hopefully Clark). More times then not we'll get good, gritty players that will grind out victories but not get the Cats to a final four or hear their name called during the NBA draft.

Bearcat_NTS · 05-21-2015, 06:43 PM

Not asking Mick to be Calipari but I question if we can even consistently land the recruits necessary to make ANY type of tournament run. Think about Louisville they had 2 pro's on their roster Terry Rozier and Montrezl Harrell. Rozier was ranked #80 in his class and Harrell was ranked #82. These weren't Mickey D's All-Americans yet both left early and will be drafted in a month. Something Mick is doing isn't working if we are interested in taking the next step as a program. The recruiting is really the only thing I can point to.

bearcat jeff · 05-21-2015, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat_NTS

Not asking Mick to be Calipari but I question if we can even consistently land the recruits necessary to make ANY type of tournament run. Think about Louisville they had 2 pro's on their roster Terry Rozier and Montrezl Harrell. Rozier was ranked #80 in his class and Harrell was ranked #82. These weren't Mickey D's All-Americans yet both left early and will be drafted in a month. Something Mick is doing isn't working if we are interested in taking the next step as a program. The recruiting is really the only thing I can point to.

Can't disagree

jacobkdoyle · 05-22-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat_NTS

It was really just an observation, we seem to be way out in front in offering NYC/NYJ recruits before they really blow up but always seem behind on Ohio recruits. I guess the staff doesn't have good connections to coaches in Ohio? I don't think Mick has signed a high school kid from the state of Ohio (Im referring to outside of Cincinnati) in his 9 years. Just kind of odd.

I don't get this either. Everyone once in a while we go after the home run kids in-state, but there is no built-in advantage for us. Like I still don't get why we haven't had any connection with Jalen Tate. His brother wasn't that highly recruited, but goes right in and has a good freshman year at Ohio State. And doesn't Jalen play on the best AAU team in the state? We never use all of our scholarships anyway, so why not look into someone like this? He has Bearcat pedigree. Maybe he's not that physically strong yet, but you can't tell me he wouldn't be a Jermaine Sanders (or one of a million others guys we've had) at worst by the time he's 22. And it'd be an in-state kid keeping the pipeline open. The guys like Huggins, Matta, and Izzo understand this. They put in the work in Ohio all the time, then we come rolling in once every few years for the Nick Ward guys, but we're already far behind. I mean, if we're bringing in guys like Jordan Caroline to visit, and we're offering 2016 kids who are being looked at in the lowest levels of D-1, why not at least give him a look? Kent State has offered him, and Ohio State and Iowa have interest. Just seems like with 6 scholarships, and a coach who couldn't fly all season, we'd try to put in some kind of effort. You never know where the next in-state stars are going to come from, might as well develop the relationships imo.

#BearcatNation · 05-22-2015, 08:53 AM

Uhhhh, where'd my post go? Was that really too personal towards NTS? I just wanted an explanation why he believed that, to which it appears he responded to without any issue. Now the thread just looks silly.

Jacob, if you'd like, DM me as to why you deleted that, because I think that was a little soft, to be completely honest.

05-20-2015, 09:12 PM	#74
bearcat jeff Hoops Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,502	UC lost its best recruiter to Oregon.

05-20-2015, 09:20 PM	#75
bearcat jeff Hoops Moderator Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,502	Cincinnati needs consecutive deep runs in the NCAA. I respect the heck out of Mick as an X and O guy and believe he will always have competitive teams but it is obvious he needs a closer on the staff or the edge that deep tournament runs can give you. Show a player you will win championships (league, CT, NCAA, non conf tournys )consistently and get them noticed and they will come play for you.

05-21-2015, 06:43 PM	#77
Bearcat_NTS Epic Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: #DumpMick Posts: 7,333	Not asking Mick to be Calipari but I question if we can even consistently land the recruits necessary to make ANY type of tournament run. Think about Louisville they had 2 pro's on their roster Terry Rozier and Montrezl Harrell. Rozier was ranked #80 in his class and Harrell was ranked #82. These weren't Mickey D's All-Americans yet both left early and will be drafted in a month. Something Mick is doing isn't working if we are interested in taking the next step as a program. The recruiting is really the only thing I can point to.

05-22-2015, 08:53 AM	#80
#BearcatNation Epic Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,120	Uhhhh, where'd my post go? Was that really too personal towards NTS? I just wanted an explanation why he believed that, to which it appears he responded to without any issue. Now the thread just looks silly. Jacob, if you'd like, DM me as to why you deleted that, because I think that was a little soft, to be completely honest.