2018 General Recruiting

GarradJ21 · 05-09-2017, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JackBauer151

What does this have to do with landing "Ohio" kids? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the Fickell comparison. I want the three best kids we can get in 2018 and DGAF where they come from. Basketball is much more about the shoe company that sponsors your AAU team more than where you are from. Kids are transferring left and right from high schools and prep schools and aau teams. Simple fact is a kid who plays for an Under Armour AAU team from Arizona is much more likely than a Cincinnati kid who plays for Nike to come to UC. That dynamic is different from football. If you dont recruit nationally in basketball you probably are gonna fall on some hard times like Ohio State.

Here's the thing, I'm a huge Cronin supporter and couldn't agree more, I don't care where the kids come from just as long as we get some really good kids. But really we don't get highly ranked players so if some higher ranked kids are at Princeton or in our back yard I would hope that would be an advantage for us. I guess my point is that 2018 I am expecting some really highly rated guys in this class. Our only excuse is that we play in the AAC but really with a decent non conference schedule, Wichita addition and always getting to the tournament it isn't much of an excuse. So with there being 4 stars right in our own back yards and we aren't on their list it made me mad but yea I am assuming Cronin can't do much about that and it is what it is, but really, we need multiple 4 star recruits in 2018 IMO. I hope we get some studs and I believe that we will just was shocked with the lists of these Ohio kids.

JasonS · 05-09-2017, 02:29 PM

There is a difference between talent in Cincinnati for football and basketball. Year after year there are top players nationally that come out of Cincinnati area HS in football. In basketball, it is not that consistent. Fickell can afford to focus a lot of time and energy locally and know that he can get good players he can win with. Mick has to be more selective with his time. In doing so, he will run the risk of losing good players locally ala Kennard to Duke. I personally don't think we want Mick having the same local strategy that Fickell has. I don't think it would be beneficial to the long term success of the program.

jacobkdoyle · 05-09-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonS

There is a difference between talent in Cincinnati for football and basketball. Year after year there are top players nationally that come out of Cincinnati area HS in football. In basketball, it is not that consistent. Fickell can afford to focus a lot of time and energy locally and know that he can get good players he can win with. Mick has to be more selective with his time. In doing so, he will run the risk of losing good players locally ala Kennard to Duke. I personally don't think we want Mick having the same local strategy that Fickell has. I don't think it would be beneficial to the long term success of the program.

Yeah I agree for the most part, especially when we aren't sitting on several open scholarships. If we do have openings, I wouldn't mind looking harder around Ohio. But that likely won't be the case for a few years since we don't have any JUCO players causing a higher turnover rate on the available scholarships.

All in all, I'm pretty pleased with the approach. More and more names will pop up this summer. And with 3 scholarships, we can be pretty selective. I'd expect a Clark/Evans/Cumberland/Williams in this class. And probably a couple more guys in the Diarra range, or a spring transfer. Nothing to worry about at this point. These things can happen quickly.

CliftonCat · 05-09-2017, 05:10 PM

I hate basing things off of 247 cause at this stage in 2018 recruiting it's really a crapshoot but for what it's worth, they have Bazley as our top target. I'm sure things will pick up in the summer and we will have somebody commit early. Just really wish we were going after Adams more but I trust the coaches. They know a whole hell of a lot more than me.

UCalum08 · 05-09-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CliftonCat

I hate basing things off of 247 cause at this stage in 2018 recruiting it's really a crapshoot but for what it's worth, they have Bazley as our top target. I'm sure things will pick up in the summer and we will have somebody commit early. Just really wish we were going after Adams more but I trust the coaches. They know a whole hell of a lot more than me.

The coaches haven't done anything on Adams for a while now. Cronin hasn't seen him in person which tells me they are looking else where for a PG. Just a guess but it seems like I have seen the coaches look at other players.

Chad Brendel · 05-09-2017, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UCalum08

The coaches haven't done anything on Adams for a while now. Cronin hasn't seen him in person which tells me they are looking else where for a PG. Just a guess but it seems like I have seen the coaches look at other players.