03-13-2017, 12:28 PM | #1 |
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What is the committee actually looking at?
Comparing UC, SMU, Minnesota, Wichita State, Wisconsin and Maryland:
UC RPI: 12 BPI: 19 Kenpom: 22 Sag: 21 AP: Coaches: 16 Seed: 22 (6) SMU RPI: 15 BPI: 16 Kenpom: 11 Sag: 19 AP: Coaches: 13 Seed: 21 (6) Minn RPI: 20 BPI: 38 Kenpom: 33 Sag: 33 AP: Coaches: 27 Seed: 18 (5) Wichita State RPI: 31 BPI: 15 Kenpom: 8 Sag: 11 AP: Coaches: 19 Seed: 38 (10) Wisconsin RPI: 32 BPI: 21 Kenpom: 23 Sag: 17 AP: Coaches: 22 Seed: 29 (8) Maryland RPI: 32 BPI: 49 Kenpom: 45 Sag: 42 AP: Coaches: 34 Seed: 23 (6) |
03-13-2017, 12:37 PM | #2 |
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add in wins vs the rpi top 50, i bet it becomes more clear.
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03-13-2017, 12:44 PM | #3 |
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UC - 3
SMU - 2 Minn - 8 Wichita - 3 Wisc - 5 Maryland - 5 They say they've backed off the rpi but treat rpi top 50 wins as gospel. Minnesota even has losses to osu and penn state. |
03-13-2017, 01:03 PM | #4 | |
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The committee also still uses the eye test and the other unfortunate reality is that the power conferences will always be perceived as being much harder than the non power conferences. We got a 6 seed, it's what we deserved, it's not like we got left out of the tourney. If we would have beaten SMU yesterday instead of playing like crap then we probably would have gotten a 5 and bumped down a team like Minnesota or Maryland. |
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03-13-2017, 01:07 PM | #5 |
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That's the part that is crazy. UC was 12th in RPI. So in the eyes of the committee, beating UC is a top 20 win. Yet when they go and seed UC, they decide they aren't one of the 20 best teams. Same with SMU. I don't understand how you can give teams credit for beating top 20 or top 50 RPI teams and then completely ignore the actual RPI rankings of each team when handing out seeds. You're either all in with RPI or you're all out. The half in half out stuff is just asinine.
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03-13-2017, 01:57 PM | #6 |
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They are looking at conference affiliation first. If you are in a Power 5 you get more credit for wins and less deduction for losses and then the benefit of the doubt the rest of the way.
We have to get out of this nonsense conference. |
03-13-2017, 02:00 PM | #7 |
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03-13-2017, 02:01 PM | #8 |
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its not just that. look at the seeding of the Big 10 teams and then explain how it makes any sense at all. How Wisconsin is 3 lines below Minnesota is just, I have no idea at all how anybody could explain that.
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03-13-2017, 02:35 PM | #10 |
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When we magically create that P6 conference that takes football!!
I love how people act like there is somewhere for UC to go. Hell, UConn is thinking of essentially killing their football program to move to a basketball conference. I don't think this is something that UC fans would stand for, and it isn't a possibility with Xavier in the Big East. All UC can do is wait for the Big 12 to implode in 3 years (When the TV contracts start to come up), and they will likely be joining the reformed conference. Until then nothing will be happening on the expansion front other than the American adding a few basketball teams. |
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