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Old 03-23-2015, 11:45 AM   #11
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If Shaq is a second tier scorer for us with Cobb and KJ (behind Ellis, Caupain and Clark), I think we can be very happy with him as a senior. We can't get the 0 point games though. He had 5 of those this year.

Edit- I shouldn't count out DeBerry as a scorer...
Need Shaq next year to score over Ellis. I want Ellis work exclusively on defense and rebounding. If he watches film of him goaltending and going after every block to learn from mistakes Ellis should win defensive player of year.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:25 PM   #12
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Need Shaq next year to score over Ellis. I want Ellis work exclusively on defense and rebounding. If he watches film of him goaltending and going after every block to learn from mistakes Ellis should win defensive player of year.
I feel like Ellis would've averaged 2 more rebounds a game if he didn't try to block/goal tend every single shot attempt. I'm all for going after blocks, but do it under control. So many times did he leave a wide open space for offensive rebounders to crash because he was out of rebounding position. Can't be mad about effort though. These guys just need to play a little smarter next year.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:39 PM   #13
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I feel like Ellis would've averaged 2 more rebounds a game if he didn't try to block/goal tend every single shot attempt. I'm all for going after blocks, but do it under control. So many times did he leave a wide open space for offensive rebounders to crash because he was out of rebounding position. Can't be mad about effort though. These guys just need to play a little smarter next year.
That's why some players need more teaching in film room than working with coaches on court. Ellis and Caupain need to watch alot of film this off season.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:48 PM   #14
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Ball handling is one of the most coach able skill there is. He spends just 15min a day working just on ball handling he'll improve. Needs players that will run with him also.

Good hands are not a coach-able skill. Shaq has problems with the catch and the dribble. You can work day and night, but if you can't catch, you can't catch. It is the #1 thing holding him back.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:50 PM   #15
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Need Shaq next year to score over Ellis. I want Ellis work exclusively on defense and rebounding. If he watches film of him goaltending and going after every block to learn from mistakes Ellis should win defensive player of year.
Ellis could be a 15 ppg scorer if he learned how to use his feet. He's so much quicker than almost anybody he plays. He also has the 12 foot jump shot.
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:48 PM   #16
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Need Shaq next year to score over Ellis. I want Ellis work exclusively on defense and rebounding. If he watches film of him goaltending and going after every block to learn from mistakes Ellis should win defensive player of year.
Ellis must cut down on goaltends and travel calls. Way too many this year. I bet he averaged at least 2 of each per game this year
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:18 PM   #17
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if Mick gives him freedom to play his style of play with mistakes. I see him making all conference next year. He needs average around 11&5 with good defense.
That's the problem Bulldog. We run a halfcourt offense and He can't score within the framework of the offense. Other than fastbreak dunks and freelancing with the ball in his hands he can't score. However, I do expect an uptick in his scoring and rebounding. I believe 9 and 6 would be great from him IMO.
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That's the problem Bulldog. We run a halfcourt offense and He can't score within the framework of the offense. Other than fastbreak dunks and freelancing with the ball in his hands he can't score. However, I do expect an uptick in his scoring and rebounding. I believe 9 and 6 would be great from him IMO.
He never should start then and only play in spurts if we only run half court sets.
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That's the problem Bulldog. We run a halfcourt offense and He can't score within the framework of the offense. Other than fastbreak dunks and freelancing with the ball in his hands he can't score. However, I do expect an uptick in his scoring and rebounding. I believe 9 and 6 would be great from him IMO.
he's pretty decent slasher in half court though. I think we get big time wing player that brings out best in Shaq this season anyway
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I hope Shaq proves me wrong but in 4 yrs his improvement is minimal, I believe the only way for Shaq to improve is to add weight/muscle and get more physical. He shys away from contact on both ends of the court.
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