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Old 03-18-2019, 10:18 PM   #11
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I come in peace. I watched every game the past 33 years except in 2006 when 14 Northwestern State beat 3 Iowa in the 1st round. Taped it and deleted it. Anyways, I picked you to win and go to the Elite 8 but here is a synopsis of Iowa and what to expect. Player rundown:

Cook- 6-9 Jr. Leading scorer and very quick and explosive. Good hook shot but no offense at all beyond 5 feet. Decent rebounder but not great (8 per game). 67% foul shooter and goes to the line a lot.

Garza 6-11 SO. 13 ppg and a good center under the basket and shoots the 3 fairly well. 83 % foul shooter as well. Pretty tough but is a HORRENDOUS rebounder at 4.5 per game. At least 3 times a game the ball is just taken from him. Also, when he is under the basket and he puts it on the deck, well, good for you for forcing another TO.

Weiskamp- 6-6 FR. 11ppg and had a strong year and hit the game winner at Rutgers. One of the only guys athletic enough to finish at the rim. Great rebounder for a 3.

Bohannon- 6-1 JR He needs like 3 more triples to set the all time record at Iowa and has a whole year left. He can go 35 minutes as a pedestrian and then go off for 15 points at will late. Easily best clutch player at Iowa and one of the best clutch players I've ever seen at any level. Indiana's radio guys only Reggie Miller was as clutch as he has been. 90% foul shooter and primary ball handler. He is SLOW on defense but can hit a 25 footer with a guy in his face as well. An absolute 2 trying to play the 1.


Moss- 6-6 JR. Great shooter usually and a guy who can go off and score an insane amount in a short period. Had 19 points in 90 seconds in a game last year nailing 3's and he is an 80 plus % FT shooter. Worst handles of a guard this side of 9th grade when penetrating but can create shot. He is either on fire or total non-factor. You will know 10 minutes into the game which one shows up.


BENCH
Kriener at 6'9 and Baer at 6'7 most relevant and probably the keys to beating Cincinnati if we are going to do it. Kriener is tough and fairly skilled around the basket and physical. Baer will do everything well except hit free throws. Baer could be a leading scorer.


Iowa leads the nation in FT attempts and hits as a team at about 74%. My biggest hope for an Iowa win (remember I picked you to win and actually get to Elite 8) is we draw fouls and get your bigs in trouble so we can feed Cook, Garza, Baer and Kriener. That would open up our 3 and when we establish the paint and get the opponents big man in foul trouble, we get to the bonus and free throw the opponent to death late especially with a 90% FT shooter as our primary ball handler. We will be very much out athlete. That won't be a question. This is how a very (white) generally slow team won 22 overall and 10 conference wins in arguably the toughest conf. in the nation top to bottom.


I pick Cincy 72 Iowa 69. Iowa will hold Cumberland to about his average of 18 up to about 21 but will focus on him and do OK. Like Harper (7 point per game scorer at Rutgers) getting his career high of 21 and then 27 both against Iowa or the 2 ppg guy at Ohio State who had 8 3'w and 29 points against us, history says one of your 6-8 ppg guys will go off and be the difference to a narrow win.
Wow - not sure why you’re picking us. I am scared as hell after reading your summary, especially the 19 points in 90 seconds after our debacle with Nevada last year. High percentag free throw shooting team in March tends to do well. I guess our only hope will be that our trademark D will rattle you enough so that by the time you adjust it will be too late. Oh but maybe that is not the case since I am sure a lot of teams play great D in the Big 10. I am sure we will need to play out if our heads to beat you but what do I know, just a dumb former rugby player that I am.
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Old 03-18-2019, 10:30 PM   #12
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Wow - not sure why you’re picking us. I am scared as hell after reading your summary, especially the 19 points in 90 seconds after our debacle with Nevada last year. High percentag free throw shooting team in March tends to do well. I guess our only hope will be that our trademark D will rattle you enough so that by the time you adjust it will be too late. Oh but maybe that is not the case since I am sure a lot of teams play great D in the Big 10. I am sure we will need to play out if our heads to beat you but what do I know, just a dumb former rugby player that I am.
On any given night, any of those 7 guys can be frightening. You just never know who it's going to be. Other than generally Cook, they'll follow up a 15 or 20 point performance with a 0 in the next game. Offensively we're pretty good, but they've only caught fire against NCAA tournament quality teams.

One consistency with this team is that it has a defense that never travels (it often doesn't show up at home either). No matter what you do offensively, unless you constantly shoot yourself in the foot with unforced errors or miss a truckload of open 3s, you're gonna score a lot of points.
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:33 AM   #13
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Wow - not sure why you’re picking us. I am scared as hell after reading your summary, especially the 19 points in 90 seconds after our debacle with Nevada last year. High percentag free throw shooting team in March tends to do well. I guess our only hope will be that our trademark D will rattle you enough so that by the time you adjust it will be too late. Oh but maybe that is not the case since I am sure a lot of teams play great D in the Big 10. I am sure we will need to play out if our heads to beat you but what do I know, just a dumb former rugby player that I am.
The National guys are not giving us much chance and if you saw 2 of our last 4 games you'd understand why. They were awful against Wisky and UM. Not at all competitive. Nebraska was actually more lucky in they made about 6 contested 3s in a row. For the most part Iowa was very competitive in games we lost. We have the disadvantage of athleticism every night so Cincinnati won't be anything new. Basically it comes down to hitting the triple and getting to the foul line. When we do that we can win. We still did win 22 so this team isn't total trash like Yahoo and some have indicated. A month ago we were top 20 in the nation. Unfortunately thus team has followed the pattern of all Frans teams in they fade late. Still we made it to Round 2 twice out of 3 times previously fading late before so an Iowa win shouldn't be a complete shock either.
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Old 03-19-2019, 06:36 AM   #14
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The National guys are not giving us much chance and if you saw 2 if our last 3 games you'd understand why. They were awful against Wisky and UM. Not at all competitive. Nebraska was actually more lucky in they made about 6 contested 3s in a row. For the most part Iowa was very competitive in games we lost. We have the disadvantage of athleticism every night so Cincinnati won't be anything new. Basically it comes down to hitting the triple and getting to the foul line. When we do that we can win. We still did win 22 so this team isn't total trash like Yahoo and some have indicated. A month ago we were top 20 in the nation. Unfortunately thus team has followed the pattern of all Frans teams in they fade late. Still we made it to Round 2 twice out of 3 times previously fading late before so an Iowa win shouldn't be a complete shock either.
Still, you can shoot the 3. Gives you a chance against anyone. I lived in Iowa city for a decent number of years, friends with many Hawkeye fans. I’ve watched both these teams this year. In my opinion the Bearcats should win the game handily...however, it’s march and the Hawkeyes have played in and won many close games they should have lost. My gut says the Bearcats still win, but I’m cautiously optimistic due to that 3 point shooting. Kids like Bohannon making shots he has no business making at the end of games.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:31 AM   #15
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this is pretty generous, man. nsoseme hasn't been stronger or better on the boards than brooks in months.

i think some of our folks don't give enough credit to the work brooks does inside for positioning that allows others to rebound.
I love Brooks, he has been a great big and has star potential next year. Looking at the Iowa forums a lot of them think they will dominate us inside, I think Brooks will more then have that covered.

But, Nsoseme is simply insane on the boards. He currently leads the team in Total Rebound Percentage (TRB) at 17.6% and Defensive Rebound Percentage at 25.0% - that means when he is in the game he grabs 1 of every 4 defensive rebounds (10.4% ORB).

In conference play he has dropped off a bit, but I think that is mostly due to his ankle injury that he seems to be full recovered from now. He still leads the team in conference DRB at 20.2 (4th on team with 12.4% TRB).

Brooks leads the other category Offensive Rebound Percentage at 13.9% and is at 19.2% DRB and 16.5% TRB. In conference Brooks leads in ORB (15.5%) and TRB (16.9%).

Scott is at ORB 9.0%, DRB 18.2%, TRB 13.6%

Iowa's two bigs Cook and Garza are at 14.6% and 11.0% TRB on the season. 8.4% and 9.0% ORB.

In short, Brooks and Nsoseme are both excellent at rebounding the ball (and Scott/Diarra are no slouches either). Both are responsible for more rebounds then they are credited for as the box out and make havoc and create opportunities for other players (or the other loses the ball out of bounds fighting them off). But on the season Nsoseme has been better on the defensive end and in total - though Brooks has dominated the offensive boards (his conference ORB would actually put him at #8 in the country if he had maintained it the entire season). In conference Brooks has been better, but I think that is largely due to injuries to Nsoseme that he seems to be fully recovered from the last couple games. Either way, having one or the other of the in the game means the opponent is going to have to fight for every board.

Edit: For fun, here are Gary Clark's senior season numbers. ORB 12.1, DRB 22.3, TRB 17.3. If Clark was a problem on the offensive glass at 12.1%, what is Brooks at 15.5%?

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Old 03-19-2019, 07:36 AM   #16
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Sounds like Iowa has a lot of shooting weapons. We don't really have what I would call a lot of weapons but Cumberland has made weapons out of some of our other players by getting them open looks. You can either go man to man and watch him carve you up or you can double him and take your chances with our other players making open shots. I would choose the latter every time if I were playing us. Cumberland WILL make you pay for leaving him open or playing relaxed D on him and our other players are less of a sure thing. Scott, Jenifer, and recently Broome have been hitting some of those open looks lately. If Iowa doesn't have a lock down guy they are going to have to double for sure or Cland will put up 30.

We have been defending the 3 better late in the season and I think this will be a game we have to extend the D which should be to our advantage. What usually kills us are penetrating guards with 3 point shooters waiting on the kick. If we don't have to worry about penetration we can guard the perimeter better. If we can keep it reasonable with the 3 point D...we should be able to win this one unless we go cold...which has been a 50-50 proposition at times. But in our tourney we were able to score a little better and we put together two of our best offensive games since January game against Tulsa.

I hope the trend continues as we often times are not playing our best ball come the Dance. The end of regular season was rough to watch on offense but the tourney gave me a little additional hope as a fan that we can put up a fight.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:43 AM   #17
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Sounds like Iowa has a lot of shooting weapons. We don't really have what I would call a lot of weapons but Cumberland has made weapons out of some of our other players by getting them open looks.

its one of those games im intrigued to see how it plays out. we can't defend the 3, our defense against 3 point shooting is basically leave them wide open and hope they miss. it works out when 40% 3 point shooters go 5-25 like vs houston on sunday. however when they aren't off it can spell trouble.



on the flip side iowa doesn't appear to play very good defense. they can't stop 2 point shots, but we can't make them. they give up a ton of offensive rebounds and offensive rebounding is how we score.



should be a good one.
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We have played 14 games since January against Tulsa. SMU and Houston tourney games were our most efficient since then on offense. Surprisingly the WSU tourney game would rank 5th of 14 if T-rank is correct.

Here is to hoping that is a continuing trend rather than a flash in the pan spurt.

If Keith Williams is reading this...now would be a good time to step it up.
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We have played 14 games since January against Tulsa. SMU and Houston tourney games were our most efficient since then on offense. Surprisingly the WSU tourney game would rank 5th of 14 if T-rank is correct.

Here is to hoping that is a continuing trend rather than a flash in the pan spurt.

If Keith Williams is reading this...now would be a good time to step it up.
You made a great point earlier about iowa not being dribble penetrators. That would favor the cats ability to defend the 3.

And here, I agree completely as well. Iowa cannot handle Williams athleticism or Cumberland (who can). These 2 could create a lot of easy opportunities or fouls. But keith will have to play much better.
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As for why Brooks is so good on offense, but not so much on D my guess is it's a product of our defensive scheme. Bigs are expected to guard any position and often pulled away from the glass. On offense though, Brooks tends to stay near the glass.

As Madman81 said, if Brooks can block out he can hold off just about anyone. He's also very good at getting inside position. But on D if he's pulled away from the basket he as good at crashing the glass. Nsoseme is the opposite - he makes a living crashing the glass. He is okay at getting position and boxing out, but it's not his strength. If he's guarding a man on the 3 point line on D, he is still going to be able to track the ball down and make the rebound.

Also a second side note: Diarra's numbers are very good as well. In conference he is ORB 10.8%, DRB 22.0% and TRB 16.2% and on the season ORB 9.7%, DRB 24.5% and TRB 17.0%

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