12-05-2018, 11:10 AM | #51 | |
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but, if you can't acknowledge that a lot of the trash they've thrown up has been contested or hoisted by bad shooters, we've not been watching the same games. |
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12-05-2018, 11:21 AM | #52 | ||
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I think last year was a fluke though, and despite our recent rough stretch, things will revert to efficiency means over the long term. In Cronin's 12 shootouts, the better Kenpom team has won 8 times. Xavier has 3 upsets and UC has one (none of the 4 upsets were away games). that's pretty close to the expected outcome. Xavier has won most games in that stretch because they've had better teams. |
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12-05-2018, 11:35 AM | #53 | ||
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i think a lot of the last 5 years have been fluke. they've shot an insane percent from 3. even with some poor shooting 3 point teams. awful 3 point shooters have drained a bunch of them. they are 52-97, 53.6% the past 5 years combined from 3. only 2 of those teams were ranked in the top 90 in 3 point % and the best was ranked 71st. absolutely insane. |
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12-05-2018, 11:37 AM | #54 | |
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i just posted this last week |
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12-05-2018, 11:50 AM | #55 |
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That's not true for individual statistics. There are tons of major programs worse than us at defensive rebounding, including teams that are better than us overall (Duke, Virginia Tech, Texas). And there are a bunch of terrible teams that are near the top in defensive rebounding (Longwood, Charlotte, St Francis are all top 15). Individual stats are fairly normally distributed across all teams.
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12-05-2018, 12:02 PM | #56 | |
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you can be a great team but still be really bad in some aspects. you can still be a horrible team but be really good at a thing or two. i dont know if there is a filter for it, but if you could find where we ranked OR% against among teams ranked in the top 150 i would think we'd come in below 75. i still think if you are around 200 in any individual stat, you just aren't good at that stat. doesn't mean you can't be great as a team. like you said duke is 275 in OR% against, but they are still an amazing overall team. |
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12-05-2018, 12:13 PM | #57 |
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I'll give you that. Below average is not good, but slightly below average isn't "very bad". We just have to make up for it with the other 4 factors, like offensive rebounding and forcing turnovers, where we're top 15. And against Xavier, we can make up for it by exploiting their weaknesses - defense and forcing turnovers.
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12-05-2018, 12:20 PM | #58 |
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One way to do this is by looking at where we would rank in each conference. If we use our current 30.1 rate, we would have ranked 3rd in the Big 12, 10th in the ACC, 8th in the SEC, and 11th in the Big Ten. Below average, but not horrible.
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12-05-2018, 01:23 PM | #59 |
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I think there must be a way to get a little better at defensive rebounding while still playing the same style of D we play. As has been mentioned we switch on everything and we try and contest every shot close to the basket often times putting our bigs out of position to get a rebound. Whether they are closing on a 3 point shooter or going for a block...it's pretty hard to box out when you are in the air.
That is something we, as a team, have said we are willing to trade off to some extent. I am sure we could make some adjustments but I think we would have to give up something in another area. I think Cronin's dream is having 5 guys who can switch (especially bigs on guards)...so I doubt that philosophy will change much. It produces very good results every year on D...but we are going to give up some defensive rebounds and corner 3's as the nature of the beast. Our biggest improvements are going to need to come on the other side of the ball. |
12-05-2018, 04:00 PM | #60 | |
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right, i wasn't trying to say we can't win if we don't keep it down, but we've struggled 3 straight games with it and it would help if we get it a little under control vs xavier its always interesting to me when teams match up and you get to compare some numbers. like xavier being awful at defending the 3 but us rarely shooting it, or unlv struggling with turnovers and us forcing and lot and getting them to turn it over 14 times, or nku being fouling machines on the season and us getting 33 ft attempts. |
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