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Old 05-31-2019, 10:20 AM   #21
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I don’t know much about McNeal. Hopefully he can contribute some. Another hole is plugged I guess. Need size and another Cumberland and we will be ready to go.
McNeal isn't very impressive unfortunately, but we needed a PG are the options are limited. In his last year he played, he had an unimpressive assist-to-TO rate of 1.4 - though he did average a good number of assists, but he also committed a lot of TO's. 3 point percentage in the low 30s.

His stats from New Mexico look very similar to Cane Broome's senior year stats. The only big difference that stands out is McNeal committed more TO's and shot slightly better from 3. His Defensive rating was also a fair amount worse. Of course he had it easier at the lower conference level.

Still he didn't have any stats last year and he could have improved quite a bit. If he can reduce the TO's, play good enough D and improve his 3-point shooting to the mid to high 30's, he can be a solid PG for us.
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:22 AM   #22
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high usage rate on a guy that can't shoot doesn't seem like a good mix with cumberland. of the moves we've made, this is the least exciting for me.
Not exciting but I am not sure we land MAW if we also land a high quality grad transfer PG. MAW wants to play. But he is a frosh so we needed a backup plan for ball handling.

This one seems to fit. MAW was not recruited over and we now have a single season reliable ball handler if we need it.

If we land a grad transfer 5 I think it will be a similar situation. A guy who can eat up fouls and guard the paint when we need it.

We still need the scoring wing...come on down please Jaevin!!
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:27 AM   #23
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McNeal isn't very impressive unfortunately, but we needed a PG are the options are limited. In his last year he played, he had an unimpressive assist-to-TO rate of 1.4 - though he did average a good number of assists, but he also committed a lot of TO's. 3 point percentage in the low 30s.

His stats from New Mexico look very similar to Cane Broome's senior year stats. The only big difference that stands out is McNeal committed more TO's and shot slightly better from 3. His Defensive rating was also a fair amount worse. Of course he had it easier at the lower conference level.

Still he didn't have any stats last year and he could have improved quite a bit. If he can reduce the TO's, play good enough D and improve his 3-point shooting to the mid to high 30's, he can be a solid PG for us.

if he's anywhere close to the 2 years broome gave us it will be a great pick up.
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:33 AM   #24
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Not exciting but I am not sure we land MAW if we also land a high quality grad transfer PG. MAW wants to play. But he is a frosh so we needed a backup plan for ball handling.

This one seems to fit. MAW was not recruited over and we now have a single season reliable ball handler if we need it.

If we land a grad transfer 5 I think it will be a similar situation. A guy who can eat up fouls and guard the paint when we need it.

We still need the scoring wing...come on down please Jaevin!!
Interesting that McNeal and MAW commits were in back to back days. I would think MAW may have been aware of who we were looking at as a transfer PG and maybe he didn't feel too threatened by McNeal for potential playing time this year.
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Old 05-31-2019, 10:40 AM   #25
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Interesting that McNeal and MAW commits were in back to back days. I would think MAW may have been aware of who we were looking at as a transfer PG and maybe he didn't feel too threatened by McNeal for potential playing time this year.
plus its only one year hes gonna get playing time as well
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plus its only one year hes gonna get playing time as well
One year deal is right. After watching another video of McNeal I am a lot more impressed than the first one I saw. I think he will be serviceable this late in the game.

Still need the scoring wing and the foul eating big...but we are getting there!
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:10 AM   #27
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One year deal is right. After watching another video of McNeal I am a lot more impressed than the first one I saw. I think he will be serviceable this late in the game.

Still need the scoring wing and the foul eating big...but we are getting there!
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Old 05-31-2019, 11:10 AM   #28
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McNeal's 1.1 PRPG! isn't bad considering what's available. He'd be in the top 20 of grad transfers available on Torvik. Jaevin is #2.
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McNeal's 1.1 PRPG! isn't bad considering what's available. He'd be in the top 20 of grad transfers available on Torvik. Jaevin is #2.
Good find! I didn't know Torvik had that transfer stuff up there.
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Finally took the liberty of checking out some video of Cumberlands cousin, he looks relatively strong and like he could contribute... The MAW looks pretty meh... I know he would be a freshman, just not feeling the recruit swap with Nebraska would of def perferred Curtis... This McNeal guy looks like a potential defensive liability the question would be is he better or equal to Justin Jenifer and I would have to say no. These are roster plug ins but so far there's been a definite decline from what we've had with all the playing time on the table we need a more definite splash forecasting these kinds of players is somewhat depressing.. the guys currently on roster I just hope thier working thier tails off bc we are gonna need a good first and last yr with JC and JB
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