10 days.....

[ralph1950]

Until the beginning of the journey to the 2013 World Series Championship for the Cincinnati Reds.

[westsidecat]

so it looks like chapman will be the closer. sure would like to see what he can do as a starter, but nice to know the game is over when he comes in.

[JumpinJack5]

Originally Posted by westsidecat

so it looks like chapman will be the closer. sure would like to see what he can do as a starter, but nice to know the game is over when he comes in.

I agree, let Chappy start. We are paying him so much to just close, let him become a pitcher, not a thrower.

[mplebanon]

Originally Posted by JumpinJack5

I agree, let Chappy start. We are paying him so much to just close, let him become a pitcher, not a thrower.

I never understand the "we're paying him too much to close" statement.

We paid Cordero $12M per season for like 5 years. Chapman's contract averages out to like $4M per season.

[JumpinJack5]

Originally Posted by mplebanon

I never understand the "we're paying him too much to close" statement.

We paid Cordero $12M per season for like 5 years. Chapman's contract averages out to like $4M per season.

Cordero was overpaid, let Hoover close, that kid is great, but Crusty would never give him an opportunity to succeed.

[david aka the TYZ]

Originally Posted by mplebanon

I never understand the "we're paying him too much to close" statement.

We paid Cordero $12M per season for like 5 years. Chapman's contract averages out to like $4M per season.

Completely agree and have made this argument to multiple people. The money a closer makes in the free agent market is equivalent to a 2nd or 3rd starter. Besides the money is already spent, lets use him to the best of his abilities. We will never be an effective starter. Once players time his pitches he becomes ineffective. Facing a guy 3 times a game allows that to happen.

[JumpinJack5]

Originally Posted by david aka the TYZ

Completely agree and have made this argument to multiple people. The money a closer makes in the free agent market is equivalent to a 2nd or 3rd starter. Besides the money is already spent, lets use him to the best of his abilities. We will never be an effective starter. Once players time his pitches he becomes ineffective. Facing a guy 3 times a game allows that to happen.

Anybody can be a closer. Haven't you ever watched Moneyball? There was a study done by the guy who predicted all the electoral votes and percentages in the election this year and he found this with relievers-on average, their eras rise 1 whole point when converted to a starter. So he concluded that if said reliever had an era below 3.50, he should move to a starter, and if it is above this mark, they should be a reliever. There is so much more value in him becoming a starter-he will learn to use his other pitches, learn to hit the corners, to speed up and speed down his fastball. Hoover is cheap and fits the role of closer much better. If Chapman ever wants to learn how to be a pitcher, he would be a starter. If he wanted to be a thrower, he should be the closer.