Go Back   BearcatTalk.com > Cincinnati Basketball > Bearcat Basketball

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-23-2020, 05:54 PM   #91
cincrulz11
Epic Member
 
cincrulz11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,329
cincrulz11 is on a distinguished road
Tre can't guard the post as a 5. I think in the offseason the thought was that he could, but any time we've tried it this year he's struggled a great deal.



We legit have 1 post defender on the whole team. And he did a great job at it today.


Vogt did his usual play well on 1 end of the floor. He just played well on the one we aren't used to.



We don't have anybody else that would have provided any resistance to Echenique in any way today
cincrulz11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 06:22 PM   #92
skyblade
Epic Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,790
skyblade is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by cincrulz11 View Post
Tre can't guard the post as a 5. I think in the offseason the thought was that he could, but any time we've tried it this year he's struggled a great deal.



We legit have 1 post defender on the whole team. And he did a great job at it today.


Vogt did his usual play well on 1 end of the floor. He just played well on the one we aren't used to.



We don't have anybody else that would have provided any resistance to Echenique in any way today
Diarra played 20 minutes against WSU when we beat them at their place and did relatively well at defending Echenique. If I recall correctly we doubled to help him in the post, but we frequently double to help Vogt outside the post, so that balances out.

I'd like to see some small ball lineups with Scott at the 5, Vogt as a big who is used situationally if needed for defense (such as against Echenique) or if he plays well on offense.
skyblade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 06:37 PM   #93
cincyguy13
Epic Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 4,633
cincyguy13 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyblade View Post
Diarra played 20 minutes against WSU when we beat them at their place and did relatively well at defending Echenique. If I recall correctly we doubled to help him in the post, but we frequently double to help Vogt outside the post, so that balances out.

I'd like to see some small ball lineups with Scott at the 5, Vogt as a big who is used situationally if needed for defense (such as against Echenique) or if he plays well on offense.
Unfortunately, the 3-4 games after the Wichita game, diarra was unplayable. He isn’t there yet. It’s not as simple as giving diarra all the minutes. For as bad as you think some players are, we see the same thing with diarra.
cincyguy13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 06:46 PM   #94
mdchick
Epic Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,638
mdchick is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by cincrulz11 View Post
Tre can't guard the post as a 5. I think in the offseason the thought was that he could, but any time we've tried it this year he's struggled a great deal.



We legit have 1 post defender on the whole team. And he did a great job at it today.


Vogt did his usual play well on 1 end of the floor. He just played well on the one we aren't used to.



We don't have anybody else that would have provided any resistance to Echenique in any way today
Falling for 2 ball fakes from a guy who shoots 23% from 3 is not good defense, echinique was held to 2 field goals made because we doubled him every time he touched the ball, Vogt was terrible in every aspect today, there’s no defending his play today
mdchick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 07:04 PM   #95
cincrulz11
Epic Member
 
cincrulz11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,329
cincrulz11 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdchick View Post
Falling for 2 ball fakes from a guy who shoots 23% from 3 is not good defense, echinique was held to 2 field goals made because we doubled him every time he touched the ball, Vogt was terrible in every aspect today, there’s no defending his play today

big L on that take
cincrulz11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 07:22 PM   #96
mdchick
Epic Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,638
mdchick is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by cincrulz11 View Post
big L on that take
That’s what I thought
mdchick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 08:50 PM   #97
CaptDale
Elite Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: California
Posts: 609
CaptDale is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by skyblade View Post
Based on the lack of reaction from players and staff, I was thinking the same thing. It's probably sort of like Jarron's injured heel, they all know about it, but there's nothing to be done other than let him play through it. I forget which arm it was in the UConn game, but it was definitely the left one this game.
It was the left on a hook and hold take down. Also, this isn't the first time I've seen him trying to stretch out the left shoulder. Hope it's not a rotator cuff injury. We need him through the remainder.
CaptDale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2020, 11:55 PM   #98
justinhub2003
Epic Member
 
justinhub2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5,583
justinhub2003 is on a distinguished road
I don't think we played great in any aspect of todays game.

But we won so that's all that matters.


I still think this team falls in love with themselves when they make a few shots on offense and forget about Defense.

There were so many times, we'd score and extend the lead only for WSU beat us down the court, get us scrambling and then find the open guy.

1. We need play 40 min of Defense to beat Houston and finish strong. IF we want to make the tourney and also win a game, we need to do it from that end too.

2. Maybe this rest will help us do that. It just sucks that the AAC set this up so Houston also gets the rest and has no games all week til UC.



Just need to a find a way to string together multiple defensive stops WHILE the offense is working. They never seem to have any synergy with each side of the ball
justinhub2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2020, 04:33 AM   #99
icehole3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 20
icehole3 is on a distinguished road
Asking Diarra to play the 5 when he's more of a 4 like Scott isn't wise. I think Diarra is actually a little bit more athletic than Scott. Given time Diarra will be a good player, Scott looked bad early in his careeer.
icehole3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2020, 05:04 AM   #100
cincyguy13
Epic Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 4,633
cincyguy13 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by justinhub2003 View Post
I don't think we played great in any aspect of todays game.

But we won so that's all that matters.


I still think this team falls in love with themselves when they make a few shots on offense and forget about Defense.

There were so many times, we'd score and extend the lead only for WSU beat us down the court, get us scrambling and then find the open guy.

1. We need play 40 min of Defense to beat Houston and finish strong. IF we want to make the tourney and also win a game, we need to do it from that end too.

2. Maybe this rest will help us do that. It just sucks that the AAC set this up so Houston also gets the rest and has no games all week til UC.



Just need to a find a way to string together multiple defensive stops WHILE the offense is working. They never seem to have any synergy with each side of the ball
I thought we lost you. After wins we don’t hear from you as much. I feel like if we would have lost you would have been on here talking about how brannen got work by Gregg Marshall or about how sad the program is. But we won.
cincyguy13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., - All material on this Cincinnati Bearcat discussion forum is strictly for entertainment purposes only. This site and any pages within are in no way affiliated with the University of Cincinnati. Any images, copyrights, or trademarks used on this site are used under the "Fair Use Provision" of the Copyright Act for purposes of comment, criticism, and news reporting.