Top 5 NBA Players From UC

swg · 05-10-2010, 02:10 PM

Jack Twyman – Jack was one of the original go-to guys in the NBA. He and Wilt Chamberlin were the 1st players to average more than 30 pts a game back in 59-60. He scored more than 15,000 for his career made 6 All Star squads and is in the Hall of Fame.

“The Big O” Oscar Robertson - Possibly the greatest basketball player ever on any level. The only player to average a triple double for an entire season. I could go on but here in Cincy his stats are well documented. In todays world of Sportscenter highlights and in house experts shouting that “last nights game was the best game ever” players from bygone eras don’t get there due. My list within a list would put MJ, Magic, Oscar, and Bill Russell as the greatest ever with a really tough fight for the fifth spot.

Kenyon Martin – Ten years in and still going Martin has been a force on D since the day he entered the league. He’s been known for his outspoken and brash behavior but has usually backed it up with his play. The last few years have been a kind of resurgence for him and it shows with Denver making the playoffs both seasons.

Nick Van Exel – Nick the Quick is one of the most underrated players of his era in my opinion. Still showing the swagger he had at UC he was one of my favorite players to watch during his NBA career. He was an all star, scored 12,000 career points, is 6th alltime in 3pointers made, and played with a flashy style anybody would enjoy.YouTube has a couple great highlight reels if you’re interested.

This last spot is hard to fill. Corie Blount, Pat Cummings and Ruben Patterson all had long NBA careers but none was exactly a standout player. If I had to pick one it would be Cummings based on nothing other than he doesn’t have the offcourt issues of the other two. Of course Jason Maxiel has time to work his way into the conversation.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/shoutout...-5-uc-players/

BigBearcatfan · 05-10-2010, 03:25 PM

I'm going to have to have a talk with Dave.

How could heleae off Danny Forston? Played at 10 years on the west coast.

Daniel Drake · 05-10-2010, 03:53 PM

I love Corie Blount, but his best year saw him with under 5 ppg.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...blounco01.html

I don't know about Cummings since I didn't watch much NBA back them, but he had 9.5 and 5.5
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...cummipa01.html

Ruben avged 10.7 and 4.2 a game. His defense was also very tight for a while there. I deducted points due to the reputation and off the court problems. Of course you could argue that putting up those numbers even with that makes him a better true player.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...patteru01.html

Fortson
Then there is Danny. He just never seemed to apply himself and couldn't stay out of trouble or away from injuries. If you value rebounds more than scoring he is the man. I don't think his defense was stellar, but the guy could flat out board. Averaged a double double for a year and then went down hill. Probably the best of the 5 here when he was at his best.

Jason Maxiell
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...maxieja01.html
I thought he might be the best when showing flashes in Detroit, but hasn't been able to break through the line. I don't know if it is his size or if Detroit just keeps filling that position with guys paid much more than him.

TheLivingLegend · 05-10-2010, 04:18 PM

My list. No particular order

Nick Van Exel

Kenyon Martin

Oscar Robinson

Danny Fortson

Ruben Patterson

Daniel Drake · 05-10-2010, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

My list. No particular order

Nick Van Exel

Kenyon Martin

Oscar Robinson

Danny Fortson

Ruben Patterson

(I am hoping that this list above is a joke I am not part of, but if not)
Danny Fortson over a NBA hall of famer. That was my thought as well. Actually I was thinking about removing Oscar "Robinson" in favor of Kenny Saterfield or Art Long and his 4 NBA seasons.

TheLivingLegend · 05-10-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Drake

(I am hoping that this list above is a joke I am not part of, but if not)
Danny Fortson over a NBA hall of famer. That was my thought as well. Actually I was thinking about removing Oscar "Robinson" in favor of Kenny Saterfield or Art Long and his 4 NBA seasons.

I never got the chance to watch him play, which is why he is not on my list. Danny Fortson had a solid career.

Daniel Drake · 05-10-2010, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLivingLegend

I never got the chance to watch him play, which is why he is not on my list. Danny Fortson had a solid career.

Did you get to see Oscar "Robinson" play? Fortson had a decent career when he was healthy, but not what he was expected to do. I dont' think 8 and 7 is what GS expected with the 10th overall pick.

swg · 05-11-2010, 06:32 AM

If there is a list, Oscar should be on it.

Red_N_Black_Attack · 05-11-2010, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swg

If there is a list, Oscar should be on it.

The discussion begins and ends with Oscar, Oscar is the list. An argument can be made he is one of the top 5 NBA players ever, along with Jordan, Wilt, and Byrd.

As for Top 5 UC players, Oscar, Twyman, Nicky and Kenyon are a pretty good start. I have read (sorry I did not see it live) that UC had some really good players both before and after the Big O, I am not familiar with the ABA and older NBA, but I would think at least one of those guys knocks out Corie, Danny, Ruben, or Maxiel. i just don't have the info or time to look it up. I am just hoping that we are not done adding to that list in the future....

TheShoeFits · 05-12-2010, 07:11 AM

This topic got me thinking...what about an all 90's team?

PG-Logan
SG-Van Exel
SF-Patterson
PF-Fortson
C-Martin

Bench

PG-Legree
SG-Burton
SF-Flint
PF-Brannen
C-Blount

How would this team hold up against other strong programs from the 90's? (UK, Duke, etc)

05-10-2010, 02:10 PM	#1
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	Top 5 NBA Players From UC Jack Twyman – Jack was one of the original go-to guys in the NBA. He and Wilt Chamberlin were the 1st players to average more than 30 pts a game back in 59-60. He scored more than 15,000 for his career made 6 All Star squads and is in the Hall of Fame. “The Big O” Oscar Robertson - Possibly the greatest basketball player ever on any level. The only player to average a triple double for an entire season. I could go on but here in Cincy his stats are well documented. In todays world of Sportscenter highlights and in house experts shouting that “last nights game was the best game ever” players from bygone eras don’t get there due. My list within a list would put MJ, Magic, Oscar, and Bill Russell as the greatest ever with a really tough fight for the fifth spot. Kenyon Martin – Ten years in and still going Martin has been a force on D since the day he entered the league. He’s been known for his outspoken and brash behavior but has usually backed it up with his play. The last few years have been a kind of resurgence for him and it shows with Denver making the playoffs both seasons. Nick Van Exel – Nick the Quick is one of the most underrated players of his era in my opinion. Still showing the swagger he had at UC he was one of my favorite players to watch during his NBA career. He was an all star, scored 12,000 career points, is 6th alltime in 3pointers made, and played with a flashy style anybody would enjoy.YouTube has a couple great highlight reels if you’re interested. This last spot is hard to fill. Corie Blount, Pat Cummings and Ruben Patterson all had long NBA careers but none was exactly a standout player. If I had to pick one it would be Cummings based on nothing other than he doesn’t have the offcourt issues of the other two. Of course Jason Maxiel has time to work his way into the conversation. http://cincinnati.com/blogs/shoutout...-5-uc-players/

05-10-2010, 04:18 PM	#4
TheLivingLegend Epic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Nati Posts: 3,837	My list. No particular order Nick Van Exel Kenyon Martin Oscar Robinson Danny Fortson Ruben Patterson __________________ ""eating dirt" is constructive criticism to becoming a better person."

05-10-2010, 03:25 PM	#2
BigBearcatfan Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Mason, Ohio Posts: 13	I'm going to have to have a talk with Dave. How could heleae off Danny Forston? Played at 10 years on the west coast.

05-10-2010, 03:53 PM	#3
Daniel Drake Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 142	I love Corie Blount, but his best year saw him with under 5 ppg. http://www.basketball-reference.com/...blounco01.html I don't know about Cummings since I didn't watch much NBA back them, but he had 9.5 and 5.5 http://www.basketball-reference.com/...cummipa01.html Ruben avged 10.7 and 4.2 a game. His defense was also very tight for a while there. I deducted points due to the reputation and off the court problems. Of course you could argue that putting up those numbers even with that makes him a better true player. http://www.basketball-reference.com/...patteru01.html Fortson Then there is Danny. He just never seemed to apply himself and couldn't stay out of trouble or away from injuries. If you value rebounds more than scoring he is the man. I don't think his defense was stellar, but the guy could flat out board. Averaged a double double for a year and then went down hill. Probably the best of the 5 here when he was at his best. Jason Maxiell http://www.basketball-reference.com/...maxieja01.html I thought he might be the best when showing flashes in Detroit, but hasn't been able to break through the line. I don't know if it is his size or if Detroit just keeps filling that position with guys paid much more than him.

05-11-2010, 06:32 AM	#8
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	If there is a list, Oscar should be on it.

05-12-2010, 07:11 AM	#10
TheShoeFits Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 417	This topic got me thinking...what about an all 90's team? PG-Logan SG-Van Exel SF-Patterson PF-Fortson C-Martin Bench PG-Legree SG-Burton SF-Flint PF-Brannen C-Blount How would this team hold up against other strong programs from the 90's? (UK, Duke, etc)