'14 SG Elijah Stewart

[Ryno99]

Originally Posted by ucdave

Thinking back on some of the previous red shirts, it seems as though Mick allows the player to decide in the end. He might suggest it, but it comes down to what the player decides to do. I know it was that way with Morman as well as SK. I think Morman was thinking it over when he broke his foot in practice and the decision was made for him.

As I said I'm confident it has been discussed with Stewart, take it for what it's worth.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by Ryno99

I understand your thought makes sense, but it just isn't the case, think about the negative it would be to recruit a kid saying you're going to play then say well we wanted to Redshirt you all along. I know for a fact at times a red shirt is discussed in recruiting and I have it on pretty good info that it has been discussed with Stewart. It is the fair thing to do, and you sell it from other angles, it allows you to learn and be a better player in the long run which gives you a better shot at the NBA in the end.

you don't use red shirting in your recruiting speech. You allow the player to come in and compete for a spot. If in the end it doesn't look like he will garner much playing time that year you may suggest he red shirt and not waste a year of eligibility.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by Ryno99

As I said I'm confident it has been discussed with Stewart, take it for what it's worth.

if that is the case I don't hold out much he he lands here.

[JackBauer151]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

you don't use red shirting in your recruiting speech. You allow the player to come in and compete for a spot. If in the end it doesn't look like he will garner much playing time that year you may suggest he red shirt and not waste a year of eligibility.

Coaches will use it in their pitches to recruits. It is very uncommon for a 4* recruit to hear that pitch. It's more typically used for high level athletes that have little basketball skill or big men who know they are going to need time to develop (Kelvin Gaines). Obviously many other reasons can factor into a redshirt such as playing time, injuries, academics ect. However to pitch a highly rated recruit on redshirting does not seem like a very good strategy seeing as there are going to be other high majors going after him and will be telling him about the playing time he could compete for.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by JackBauer151

Coaches will use it in their pitches to recruits. It is very uncommon for a 4* recruit to hear that pitch. It's more typically used for high level athletes that have little basketball skill or big men who know they are going to need time to develop (Kelvin Gaines). Obviously many other reasons can factor into a redshirt such as playing time, injuries, academics ect. However to pitch a highly rated recruit on redshirting does not seem like a very good strategy seeing as there are going to be other high majors going after him and will be telling him about the playing time he could compete for.

I understand that Jack. Thanks for your response. I feel we are a program under Mick that isn't going after projects anymore. Another reason why Coaches don't like to use red shirting in recruitment is because they can't predict the future. Injuries and team make up changes things season to season. Suppose he red shirts and the next year he is injured or another player commits that changes the red shirts opportunity. Lots of reasons to avoid red shirting. Of course your scenario concerning Gaines is a very good reason to use it. Hopefully we have grown beyond that strategy.

[ccmbearcat]

Originally Posted by #BearcatNation

Not to mention, who says he'd redshirt? We need a scoring wing right now. He is just that.

Of course. If Mick is lucky enough to land him, there is zero chance he will redshirt. With Lawrence gone there will very likely be no redshirts this year unless there is a major injury.

[JackBauer151]

Originally Posted by ccmbearcat

Of course. If Mick is lucky enough to land him, there is zero chance he will redshirt. With Lawrence gone there will very likely be no redshirts this year unless there is a major injury.

There absolutely is a chance he could redshirt. There is also a chance someone on the front line could redshirt as well. There are 5 players for two spots. I dont see two redshirts but if we have 13 scholarship players there are going to be some odd men out. There simply is not enough minutes for everyone. I would be shocked not to see a redshirt if we have 13.

[Grgbartell@yahoo.com]

Looks like USC is in the lead on this one. Hope I'm way off. Would love to see him at UC. No way he redshirts

[dp3113]

Originally Posted by ccmbearcat

Of course. If Mick is lucky enough to land him, there is zero chance he will redshirt. With Lawrence gone there will very likely be no redshirts this year unless there is a major injury.

you think they are going to have a 12-13 man rotation? it is difficult to play 10 people, let alone 12-13

there will absolutely be at least 1 redshirt without any injuries. Injuries obviously could force more than that.

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by dp3113

you think they are going to have a 12-13 man rotation? it is difficult to play 10 people, let alone 12-13

there will absolutely be at least 1 redshirt without any injuries. Injuries obviously could force more than that.

I don't necessarily disagree but I think people should wait until after practices and exhibition games before trying to guess who is redshirting. I bet Mick doesn't even know at this point. A lot can happen between now and the start of the season.