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Old 01-15-2020, 04:31 PM   #11
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His offense is off the charts.

I want him on the floor. Iíd just like to see a better scheme

im still certain the sample size on those 3's is short term variance. what's his man shooting on the season? it was insane before, im sure its just as crazy.


when you got guys like the guy from Tulane going 5-5 from 3, some of them even steps behind the line its going to make your overall numbers look bad.



as long as he plays good post defense, thats all we care about.

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im still certain the sample size on those 3's is short term variance. what's his man shooting on the season? it was insane before, im sure its just as crazy.


when you got guys like the guy from Tulane going 5-5 from 3, some of them even steps behind the line its going to make your overall numbers look bad.



as long as he plays good post defense, thats all we care about.
A few 3 pointers arenít driving him to have the probably the worst rated defense UC has had in the past 30 years.

His defense is really geared for a 2-3 zone.

But I didnít post these to call out Vogt.


Iíll take his defensive issues because of the way he scores.
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Old 01-15-2020, 04:41 PM   #13
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im still certain the sample size on those 3's is short term variance. what's his man shooting on the season? it was insane before, im sure its just as crazy.


when you got guys like the guy from Tulane going 5-5 from 3, some of them even steps behind the line its going to make your overall numbers look bad.



as long as he plays good post defense, thats all we care about.
But I looked up his post up defense.

Itís not goof either

Heís listed at average in the post allowing .85 points per possession, which is better than 42% of D1

Non post ups (shots around the basket) he is giving 1.16 points per possession

So essentially he doesnít defend the rim either


But again, who cares
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A few 3 pointers arenít driving him to have the probably the worst rated defense UC has had in the past 30 years.

His defense is really geared for a 2-3 zone.

But I didnít post these to call out Vogt.


Iíll take his defensive issues because of the way he scores.
What was Quadriís. That one has to be in the conversation I would think.
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A few 3 pointers arenít driving him to have the probably the worst rated defense UC has had in the past 30 years.

His defense is really geared for a 2-3 zone.

But I didnít post these to call out Vogt.


Iíll take his defensive issues because of the way he scores.
the 3's definitely were the main cause of his grade being so bad when you posted his individual numbers before, thats why i keep asking if his post defense is still strong like it was before.
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But I looked up his post up defense.

Itís not goof either

Heís listed at average in the post allowing .85 points per possession, which is better than 42% of D1

Non post ups (shots around the basket) he is giving 1.16 points per possession

So essentially he doesnít defend the rim either


But again, who cares

that would be a big drop from before, which is not good. and he does need to be able to defend his man 1v1 in the post.
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What was Quadriís. That one has to be in the conversation I would think.
Lol I know is going to be hard to believe but in 16-17 season, quadri was an excellent defender, in 49 possessions giving up just .65 ppp
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But I looked up his post up defense.

Itís not goof either

Heís listed at average in the post allowing .85 points per possession, which is better than 42% of D1

Non post ups (shots around the basket) he is giving 1.16 points per possession

So essentially he doesnít defend the rim either


But again, who cares
Guys make hard shots on him. Not sure how that factors. The Tulane guy, Colgate guy, Jones from Xavier all made hard shots. At some point it his fault but all you can do is put a hand in their face and if he canít move thatís gonna be kinda hard.
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Lol I know is going to be hard to believe but in 16-17 season, quadri was an excellent defender, in 49 possessions giving up just .65 ppp
I question these metrics if they are telling me Quadri was an excellent defender. Heís one of the worst Iíve ever seen. No one ever seen quad and said he is a good defender. No one. Maybe that was a sample size thing.
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My other guess would be Yancy, only because he didnít try very hard. Or it seemed that way at times.
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