Future teams

[beeman7467]

Originally Posted by TheRealMick

I know it was Big East, but Mick had his better classes his first years. He fell off cliff lately though really doesn't matter at this point.

You'd like to think that conference affiliation doesn't make that much difference in perception (especially since the Bearcats at the ones in the AAC ), but it does. You can succeed without it, Gonzaga, but it surely helps a bunch. Mick started with very little and built them into a competitive program in one of the country's toughest conferences. Gotta be tough leaving that for their current league. I like CJB's attitude and look forward to seeing what he accomplishes here. For him, the AAC is huge step up and not a hindrance to success (Mick's attitude - my opinion). Given the situation, CJB hit a home run out of the gate. Hopefully not too much to ask, but some Brad Stevens-esque success would be fantastic.

[HongKongPhooey]

Originally Posted by beeman7467

You'd like to think that conference affiliation doesn't make that much difference in perception (especially since the Bearcats at the ones in the AAC ), but it does. You can succeed without it, Gonzaga, but it surely helps a bunch. Mick started with very little and built them into a competitive program in one of the country's toughest conferences. Gotta be tough leaving that for their current league. I like CJB's attitude and look forward to seeing what he accomplishes here. For him, the AAC is huge step up and not a hindrance to success (Mick's attitude - my opinion). Given the situation, CJB hit a home run out of the gate. Hopefully not too much to ask, but some Brad Stevens-esque success would be fantastic.

Mick didn't have players on the roster but they were competitive before Mick got here. I agree Micks attitude or lack of belief that it is possible to recruit and win at the highest level at UC was the reason they didn't. All the fans should be ecstatic that Brannen does. He obviously has to be able to coach too, but I have no doubts about his ability to coach. Mick leaving I think will be good for both parties. He's at a program he believes in and we have a coach that believes in this program. This is a must for high level success.

[HongKongPhooey]

Originally Posted by waterhead

I think he also said his teams were always 1st or 2nd in AAC in scoring every year. I didn't check every year but I saw 3rd, 4th and 7th the last 3 years.

I am guessing he meant efficiency...but that's not what recruits are looking at. Disconnected

ESPN stats has UC listed in order from 1st season of aac to the last 9th 10th 6th 1st 3rd and 8th aac team ppg he's straight up lying is what he's doing once is hardly every year. If I had to guess I'd say they never finished top 2 in big east in scoring.

[HongKongPhooey]

Originally Posted by TheRealMick

I know it was Big East, but Mick had his better classes his first years. He fell off cliff lately though really doesn't matter at this point.

His best team was the one from 17/18 season though. That was four years after big east. Recruiting rankings are overrated. Take out kilpatrick and Lance and the five other best players from Cronin era in my opinion were on that team. Evans, Cumberland, Clark, Washington, and Caupain

[prancer]

Originally Posted by HongKongPhooey

His best team was the one from 17/18 season though. That was four years after big east. Recruiting rankings are overrated. Take out kilpatrick and Lance and the five other best players from Cronin era in my opinion were on that team. Evans, Cumberland, Clark, Washington, and Caupain

Caupain wasn't on that team. He graduated the year before. Even so, the 17/18 team was great.

[HongKongPhooey]

Originally Posted by prancer

Caupain wasn't on that team. He graduated the year before. Even so, the 17/18 team was great.

Yeah my bad they had all five together the year before.

[juckerrules]

Originally Posted by beeman7467

You'd like to think that conference affiliation doesn't make that much difference in perception (especially since the Bearcats at the ones in the AAC ), but it does. You can succeed without it, Gonzaga, but it surely helps a bunch. Mick started with very little and built them into a competitive program in one of the country's toughest conferences. Gotta be tough leaving that for their current league. I like CJB's attitude and look forward to seeing what he accomplishes here. For him, the AAC is huge step up and not a hindrance to success (Mick's attitude - my opinion). Given the situation, CJB hit a home run out of the gate. Hopefully not too much to ask, but some Brad Stevens-esque success would be fantastic.

Memphis doesn't seem to be having much of a problem recruiting in the AAC

[TheRealMick]

Originally Posted by juckerrules

Memphis doesn't seem to be having much of a problem recruiting in the AAC

Mick just didn't recruit players he couldn't be their daddy. Outside of Broome and mick didn't like him to well, which player had a daddy around program? One way or another most top 100 have some type of male figure around(mick called them handlers) them more than Mick liked. Lol, think about it mainly all Mick's pets had their mom's with closest relationship to coach.

[TheRealMick]

Whenever daddy, uncle or aau coach was involved with player mick and his main man Chad SCREAMED we not getting in recruiting battle with that player HANDLERS!

[Alum2013]

Originally Posted by beeman7467

You'd like to think that conference affiliation doesn't make that much difference in perception (especially since the Bearcats at the ones in the AAC ), but it does. You can succeed without it, Gonzaga, but it surely helps a bunch. Mick started with very little and built them into a competitive program in one of the country's toughest conferences. Gotta be tough leaving that for their current league. I like CJB's attitude and look forward to seeing what he accomplishes here. For him, the AAC is huge step up and not a hindrance to success (Mick's attitude - my opinion). Given the situation, CJB hit a home run out of the gate. Hopefully not too much to ask, but some Brad Stevens-esque success would be fantastic.

Do you think it's possible over the last few years people, coaches, and kids have realized Mick is never going to change? With seeing the way the game is moving more towards offense and the type if kids that get drafted you need to show an offensive game/athleticism and that is very difficult in Micks system compared to others. I think the book eventually came out on Mick not knowing how to coach offense and that has lead to a decrease in offensive minded players.