Gates Suspended-Not Playing Tonite

swg · 02-06-2011, 08:06 AM

He said he might have violated all three rules. That doesn't bode well for him. I'm thinking he doesn't return this year, but who knows.

swg · 02-06-2011, 08:21 AM

Asked which of those rules forward Yancy Gates violated, Cronin said, “Probably all three in my opinion.”

Gates, a 6-foot-9 junior from Withrow High School, was suspended indefinitely Friday for violating team rules and did not make the trip here with his teammates to play against Pitt.

Cronin said he had no meetings scheduled with Gates and has no idea when he’ll return.

“I’m worried about the guys that are here,” Cronin said.

The UC coach would not say specifically what Gates did.

“It wasn’t one incident,” Cronin said. “It was all week. Now you might have had a culminating incident.”

That incident reportedly occurred at practice when Gates exchanged words with an assistant coach, although Cronin would not confirm that.

Gates could not be reached Saturday night. His father, Tony Dees, said he did not want to comment until he knew more about what triggered the suspension.

“I’ve only got bits and pieces,” he said.

Asked if he was upset that Cronin suspended Gates, Dees said, “Not if he didn’t handle his part and did what he needs to do. I’d like to find out what’s going on before I comment on anything.”

Without Gates, UC’s second leading scorer (11.4) and leading rebounder (6.9), Cronin started a front line of Ibrahima Thomas, Darnell Wilks and Rashad Bishop against the Panthers after considering starting either Biggie McClain or Sean Kilpatrick.

Cronin said he was disappointed with Gates and said Gates’ teammates should be disappointed in him, too.

“The problem with college basketball today,” Cronin said, “it’s gotten lost that it should be a privilege to play for Jamie Dixon at Pittsburgh or to play at Cincinnati, the home of Oscar Robertson, that you should take that and make the most of it.

“Too many kids think you’re doing everybody a favor being around. What they don’t realize is if you don’t want to be around somebody else will take your spot.”

After the game, Cronin was adamant that he believed Gates’ absence did not cost his team the chance to knock off the fourth-ranked Panthers. He said he thought UC’s offense actually flowed better without Gates, even though the Bearcats shot only 33.3 percent from the field.

“Our ball movement and our execution is a lot better with him out of the lineup because we don’t throw the ball to him in the low post without him posting,” Cronin said. “We have better spacing. We get a lot more player movement and our screening is better. I think it showed. We were just missing layups and missing shots in the first half.”

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...d-indefinitely

bearcatmike · 02-06-2011, 11:05 AM

it's very welcome to know that Coach Cronin will lead this team with discipline as opposed to catering to the leading scorer or rebounder as Huggs would do -- Mick will WIN and WIN a lot when all is said & done!

swg · 02-06-2011, 11:09 AM

I like the optimism from Mike. I'm trying to get there as well, but it's difficult after watching UC play solid teams. I shall try again next game.

bearcat jeff · 02-06-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bearcatmike

it's very welcome to know that Coach Cronin will lead this team with discipline as opposed to catering to the leading scorer or rebounder as Huggs would do -- Mick will WIN and WIN a lot when all is said & done!

Mike my criticism of Mick Cronin at the end of last season was his inability to raise his team above it's talent level. I think he does many things well but hasn't demonstrated this one critical quality. If he is going to win and win big he has to be able to do that. I just haven't seen it as of yet.

Bearcat_NTS · 02-06-2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcatmike

it's very welcome to know that Coach Cronin will lead this team with discipline as opposed to catering to the leading scorer or rebounder as Huggs would do -- Mick will WIN and WIN a lot when all is said & done!

What games have you been watching?

swg · 02-06-2011, 01:31 PM

We have factions upon factions.

Huggs vs Zimpher.

AK vs Zimpher

UC fans vs Huggs

UC fans vs anti-Huggs UC fans

UC fans vs Cronin

UC fans vs anti-Cronin UC fans

At least we all know Huggs Yellow Suit was a disaster, and that beer is good.

MDW79 · 02-06-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by swg

We have factions upon factions.

Huggs vs Zimpher.

AK vs Zimpher

UC fans vs Huggs

UC fans vs anti-Huggs UC fans

UC fans vs Cronin

UC fans vs anti-Cronin UC fans

At least we all know Huggs Yellow Suit was a disaster, and that beer is good.

I think it's really becoming a questions of standards. I think you have some that may be happy with being somewhat BE competitive and perhaps think that a 8/9 seed would be quite a feat. They can find improvement even if not met, and have hope moving forward.

Then I think another group demands an 8/9 seed at minimum, and anything is less is total failure. If this is not met, they have very little hope for the future.

Juliepitzer · 02-06-2011, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearcatmike

it's very welcome to know that Coach Cronin will lead this team with discipline as opposed to catering to the leading scorer or rebounder as Huggs would do -- Mick will WIN and WIN a lot when all is said & done!

I am sorry but your statement about Huggins is so far from the truth it makes me wonder who you are. I am by no means a huge supporter of Huggs but I dont like fabrications either and the above is a blatant lie. There was always a player on suspension for violations of team rules. Patterson, Wingfield, Hicks, Little, Grove, etc. It got to the point where I expected someone absent from the bench nearly every game. The difference was, he kept it in house and out of the press.

Juliepitzer · 02-06-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bearcat jeff

Mick Cronin:

“I'm concerned with our basketball team right now, and he's not part of it,” Cronin said. “We don't have a lot of rules. Play hard, be a good guy, be committed to the team, be coachable. It's really non negotiable. I'm a big believer in life, the squeaky wheel should not get the oil. My energy and my efforts do not go to the squeaky wheel, it goes to the guys that are doing the right things and that want to compete and play hard for our fans, our university and our city.”

I like it!

Umm, the squeaky tire is probably the one that needs the oil. It is a waste of resources to oil the ones not in need. Bad analogy IMO.

02-06-2011, 11:05 AM	#13
bearcatmike Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1	coach has backbone it's very welcome to know that Coach Cronin will lead this team with discipline as opposed to catering to the leading scorer or rebounder as Huggs would do -- Mick will WIN and WIN a lot when all is said & done!

02-06-2011, 08:06 AM	#11
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	He said he might have violated all three rules. That doesn't bode well for him. I'm thinking he doesn't return this year, but who knows.

02-06-2011, 08:21 AM	#12
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	Asked which of those rules forward Yancy Gates violated, Cronin said, “Probably all three in my opinion.” Gates, a 6-foot-9 junior from Withrow High School, was suspended indefinitely Friday for violating team rules and did not make the trip here with his teammates to play against Pitt. Cronin said he had no meetings scheduled with Gates and has no idea when he’ll return. “I’m worried about the guys that are here,” Cronin said. The UC coach would not say specifically what Gates did. “It wasn’t one incident,” Cronin said. “It was all week. Now you might have had a culminating incident.” That incident reportedly occurred at practice when Gates exchanged words with an assistant coach, although Cronin would not confirm that. Gates could not be reached Saturday night. His father, Tony Dees, said he did not want to comment until he knew more about what triggered the suspension. “I’ve only got bits and pieces,” he said. Asked if he was upset that Cronin suspended Gates, Dees said, “Not if he didn’t handle his part and did what he needs to do. I’d like to find out what’s going on before I comment on anything.” Without Gates, UC’s second leading scorer (11.4) and leading rebounder (6.9), Cronin started a front line of Ibrahima Thomas, Darnell Wilks and Rashad Bishop against the Panthers after considering starting either Biggie McClain or Sean Kilpatrick. Cronin said he was disappointed with Gates and said Gates’ teammates should be disappointed in him, too. “The problem with college basketball today,” Cronin said, “it’s gotten lost that it should be a privilege to play for Jamie Dixon at Pittsburgh or to play at Cincinnati, the home of Oscar Robertson, that you should take that and make the most of it. “Too many kids think you’re doing everybody a favor being around. What they don’t realize is if you don’t want to be around somebody else will take your spot.” After the game, Cronin was adamant that he believed Gates’ absence did not cost his team the chance to knock off the fourth-ranked Panthers. He said he thought UC’s offense actually flowed better without Gates, even though the Bearcats shot only 33.3 percent from the field. “Our ball movement and our execution is a lot better with him out of the lineup because we don’t throw the ball to him in the low post without him posting,” Cronin said. “We have better spacing. We get a lot more player movement and our screening is better. I think it showed. We were just missing layups and missing shots in the first half.” http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...d-indefinitely

02-06-2011, 11:09 AM	#14
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	I like the optimism from Mike. I'm trying to get there as well, but it's difficult after watching UC play solid teams. I shall try again next game.

02-06-2011, 01:31 PM	#17
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	We have factions upon factions. Huggs vs Zimpher. AK vs Zimpher UC fans vs Huggs UC fans vs anti-Huggs UC fans UC fans vs Cronin UC fans vs anti-Cronin UC fans At least we all know Huggs Yellow Suit was a disaster, and that beer is good.