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Old 12-11-2018, 06:30 AM   #11
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i can already picture mick now if somebody helps off peters and gives him a wide open 3.


we're almost going to have to live with it if some of their other guys hit 3's, but it can't be peters.

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Old 12-11-2018, 08:36 AM   #12
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I agree with this some, to me it's all about getting Moore, Johnson and Frederick up to where Williams is at. They mist be fully developed by the Tourney.
I don't think it's reasonable to think they can get to where Williams is at. Hell I don't even think Williams would be where Williams is at if it weren't for Evans leaving. It takes minutes to gain some confidence.

Talent wise I don't think Moore or Fredericks can get there anyway. Johnson probably has the talent. Moore would have to start shooting volume 3's around 40%+ to add that type of value to the team. Fredericks is versatile but not really great at anything.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:59 AM   #13
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I don't think it's reasonable to think they can get to where Williams is at. Hell I don't even think Williams would be where Williams is at if it weren't for Evans leaving. It takes minutes to gain some confidence.

Talent wise I don't think Moore or Fredericks can get there anyway. Johnson probably has the talent. Moore would have to start shooting volume 3's around 40%+ to add that type of value to the team. Fredericks is versatile but not really great at anything.
They need confidence and that comes with minutes. I don't expect them to get as many minutes as Williams but increase their minutes and reduce others some is what Im hoping.
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Old 12-12-2018, 05:51 AM   #14
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They need confidence and that comes with minutes. I don't expect them to get as many minutes as Williams but increase their minutes and reduce others some is what Im hoping.
We are entering the part of the schedule were I don't think minutes are going to increase for some players. Roles have been defined and the bench is much shorter at this point of the season. If I was them I would be trying to make a impact in practice. Lots of value in helping the team prepare for opponents. Also you never can predict injuries or foul situations.
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We are entering the part of the schedule were I don't think minutes are going to increase for some players. Roles have been defined and the bench is much shorter at this point of the season. If I was them I would be trying to make a impact in practice. Lots of value in helping the team prepare for opponents. Also you never can predict injuries or foul situations.
I agree. Seems like the bulk of the minutes will go to:

Jenifer, Cumberland, Williams, Scott, Brooks, Broome, Nsoseme. With Fredericks and Moore getting some as fouls or matchups define. Then very few minutes left for Logan Johnson. I hope he sees as many minutes as he can against decent competiton (we know from Eggs game that he is unlikely to see many minutes against Miss st, UCLA, Houston, UCF ...)
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I agree. Seems like the bulk of the minutes will go to:

Jenifer, Cumberland, Williams, Scott, Brooks, Broome, Nsoseme. With Fredericks and Moore getting some as fouls or matchups define. Then very few minutes left for Logan Johnson. I hope he sees as many minutes as he can against decent competiton (we know from Eggs game that he is unlikely to see many minutes against Miss st, UCLA, Houston, UCF ...)
Definitely agree.
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They need confidence and that comes with minutes. I don't expect them to get as many minutes as Williams but increase their minutes and reduce others some is what Im hoping.
After UCLA we might see a 3 game stretch where Johnson and other bench players can get extended minutes. Any experience can help if and when we need to call on them
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Old 12-12-2018, 12:25 PM   #18
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I agree. Seems like the bulk of the minutes will go to:

Jenifer, Cumberland, Williams, Scott, Brooks, Broome, Nsoseme. With Fredericks and Moore getting some as fouls or matchups define. Then very few minutes left for Logan Johnson. I hope he sees as many minutes as he can against decent competiton (we know from Eggs game that he is unlikely to see many minutes against Miss st, UCLA, Houston, UCF ...)
All this is subject to how they play. If they win this way like against Xavier, then great. If not, then you look at other options of which Logan Johnson is the first.
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Old 12-12-2018, 12:36 PM   #19
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At this point I think Fredricks is the only player we should hope or expect to see much improvement/increased role moving towards March. Maybe Moore if his shot starts falling consistently. I love Logan and his potential for the next 3 1/2 years but he isnt going to unseat Jenifer as the starting PG. Our goal this year is not to have Logan starting nor is it our best or only chance to win come March.
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We are entering the part of the schedule were I don't think minutes are going to increase for some players. Roles have been defined and the bench is much shorter at this point of the season. If I was them I would be trying to make a impact in practice. Lots of value in helping the team prepare for opponents. Also you never can predict injuries or foul situations.
Im willing to accept 2 maybe even 3 losses to get these guys meaningful minutes, that's how important I think it is to advance in the Tourney. 2 or 3 games I would sit Brooks and Broome. They can afford it to get Moore, Fredericks and Johnson meaningful minutes, just my 2 cents.
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