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Old 02-24-2020, 08:16 AM   #91
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We were on Lunardi's roller coaster this weekend. After the UCF loss, we were still in the field. Then after Saturday when we didn't play and a ton of bubble teams lost, we dropped to first four out. Now we're back above the bubble again. Seems like he's spitballing. He's the most visible bracketologist though, so his opinion is more influential more than others.

Dave Ommen has us as an 11 seed. A lot of bracketologists aren't placing us on their bubble lists right now because we are taking the auto-bid as conference leader.
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Old 02-24-2020, 08:25 AM   #92
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We were on Lunardi's roller coaster this weekend. After the UCF loss, we were still in the field. Then after Saturday when we didn't play and a ton of bubble teams lost, we dropped to first four out. Now we're back above the bubble again. Seems like he's spitballing. He's the most visible bracketologist though, so his opinion is more influential more than others.

Dave Ommen has us as an 11 seed. A lot of bracketologists aren't placing us on their bubble lists right now because we are taking the auto-bid as conference leader.

lets just make it easy and win at houston. of course the usf game is really scary because nobody in this conference has been winning both games of 2 game road trips.


im not gonna miss a season where every game is like this.
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Old 02-24-2020, 12:41 PM   #93
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In Monday's bracketmatrix update, we're in 71 of 96 brackets. We are the second to last team in, just ahead of Providence (58). Richmond is the first team out with 45.

Here are the resumes (Q1, Q2, bad losses):

10 Rhode Island (1-4, 5-2, 1)
11 USC (2-7, 6-1, 1)
11 Utah St (2-4, 2-2, 1)
11 Oklahoma (3-9, 5-2, 0)
11 NC St (5-4, 4-3, 3)
11 Cincinnati (2-5, 6-0, 4)
11 Providence (7-8, 3-0, 4)
12 E Tennessee St (2-1, 1-1, 2)
12 Northern Iowa (1-1, 4-2, 2)
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Richmond (2-4, 2-2, 1)
Stanford (2-5, 4-3, 1)
Georgetown (4-10, 5-2, 0)
Purdue (4-11, 3-2, 1)
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:03 PM   #94
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This season is going to be an interesting case study of what the committee Values for its last few seeds.

Below is all the teams slated for the 10 and 11 seeds in Bracket Matrix, list next to them is their resume. IN BOLD from each Tier is the best record/Most wins and in Italics is the worst.


#53 NC State: 5-4/4-3/2-3/6-0

#48 Providence: 7-8/3-0/1-3/5-1

#54 UC: 2-5/6-0/6-4/4-0

#38 Utah State: 2-4/2-2/6-1/10-0

#55 Oklahoma: 3-9/5-2/5-0/3-0

#47 USC: 2-7/6-1/6-1/5-0

#37 Rhode Island: 1-4/5-2/7-1/6-0

#52 Indiana: 6-7/2-2/3-0/7-0

#44 Xavier: 3-9/6-1/4-0/4-0

#43 WSU: 2-4/6-3/4-0/8-0


First Four Out:
#49 Richmond: 2-4/2-2/6-1/10-0
#31 Stanford: 2-5/4-3/6-1/6-0
#59 Georgetown: 4-10/5-2/1-0/5-0
#36 Purdue: 4-11/3-2/2-1/5-0


Teams with the most Tier 3/4 losses: UC, Providence, NC State
Teams with the most tier 1 wins: Providence, Indiana, NC State
Teams with the most Tier 1/2 Wins: Providence, NC State, Xavier


Teams with highest over SOS: Xavier (#8), GeorgeTown (#12), Providence (#15), Oklahoma (#21), UC (#23)

Teams with the Worst SOS: Utah state, Stanford, WSU, Richmond



So here is how many games each team has left against tier 1 and 2:


#53 NC State: 2/0/2/0

#48 Providence: 1/2

#54 UC: 1/1/1

#38 Utah State: 0 Tier 1 or 2 left

#55 Oklahoma: 2/2/

#47 USC: 1/2

#37 Rhode Island: 1/1/2

#52 Indiana: 3/1

#44 Xavier: 3/1

#43 WSU: 1/1/2


First Four Out:
#49 Richmond: 0/1/3
#31 Stanford: 3/0/1
#59 Georgetown: 3/1
#36 Purdue:1/2



Looking at the games left on the schedule, 2 teams concern me the most about having the opportunities to move back into the field and that's Stanford who has an 3 tier 1 games left. IF they go 2-1 in those games, they move right into the field and someone moves out. My first choice would be Utah State.

Then Georgetown.. GTown last a few key players and yet still has a quality resume. But the issue is they have 3 tier 1 games left and 1 tier 2. If they go 2-2, they are likely back in the fold. Someone else bounces out.



The negatives for UC is that we have the most or tied for most tier 3/4 losses. The other is that of all those teams we have the 3 worst NET ranking.

The positives are we have the best record against tier 2 teams. And we have a top 25 SOS.

The gist: Beat Houston

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Old 02-24-2020, 01:03 PM   #95
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In Monday's bracketmatrix update, we're in 71 of 96 brackets. We are the second to last team in, just ahead of Providence (58). Richmond is the first team out with 45.

Here are the resumes (Q1, Q2, bad losses):

10 Rhode Island (1-4, 5-2, 1)
11 USC (2-7, 6-1, 1)
11 Utah St (2-4, 2-2, 1)
11 Oklahoma (3-9, 5-2, 0)
11 NC St (5-4, 4-3, 3)
11 Cincinnati (2-5, 6-0, 4)
11 Providence (7-8, 3-0, 4)
12 E Tennessee St (2-1, 1-1, 2)
12 Northern Iowa (1-1, 4-2, 2)
-----------------------------------
Richmond (2-4, 2-2, 1)
Stanford (2-5, 4-3, 1)
Georgetown (4-10, 5-2, 0)
Purdue (4-11, 3-2, 1)

LOL Damn we were doing the same thing.
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Old 02-24-2020, 01:24 PM   #96
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Nice rundown. It just occurred to me that Utah St and Richmond have the exact same quadrant records. I think what sets them apart is Utah St is 12 spots better in NET/Kenpom.
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we are currently in 79 of 103 brackets on bracketmatrix and we sit at an 11 seed. a few have us as a 9, who knows how.
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Old 02-27-2020, 10:32 AM   #98
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UNLV is starting to look like a potential bid stealer. They are playing really well right now and the Mountain West tourney is on their home floor.
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Old 02-28-2020, 12:01 AM   #100
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If UCLA loses tonight, we can probably scratch them from an at large I would think.

They had their chances to win.

Arizona state has some killers on their team. Not a team you want to play in March
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