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Old 11-14-2019, 08:32 PM   #81
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Jarron didn't play because of a "coach's decision" and that's all Brannen said to Hoard and KJ about it.
Jarron has no choice but to submit to the coach. It's about as simple as that. It won't happen the other way around
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:38 PM   #82
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I thought Harvey looked a tad better. He seems to not have much awareness that he can't get to the rack without creating space. He keeps getting stuck under the rim. He's been blocked about 75% of the time down there. He made a couple of nice moves tonight but also a couple of not so good. He is figuring it out...just like MAW will figure out when you can and can't pass the ball.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:45 PM   #83
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Just a guess, Jarron expected to get the superstar treatment his senior year to raise NBA stock, pissed that he was 4th leading scorer and only had 19 minutes against drake
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:05 PM   #84
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Just a guess, Jarron expected to get the superstar treatment his senior year to raise NBA stock, pissed that he was 4th leading scorer and only had 19 minutes against drake
Brannen’s going to have to make some accommodation for Jarron who should be deep into our record book by the end of the year. Jarron has earned some stature and I hope Brannen realizes that it can not be my way or the highway. This could be a special season if Jarron achieves all he is capable of. The alternative without him is to finish around 500 and break our tournament string. Given the options I am for Coach giving in some and recognizing that Jarron is not just another player. The most succcessful coaches have been the most deferential to players IMO. Sparky Anderson and Phil Jackson come to mind among others.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:09 PM   #85
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Aside from the last 10 minutes of the 1st half, it was a pretty good effort all around.

Vogt played a stellar game.

Tre looked like the confident and competent player of last year.

Jaevin made plays at each end of the floor

The younger guys all made positive strides.

One concern early on though is McNeal's outside shooting. He's 2-16 through 3 games from 3.
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Brannen’s going to have to make some accommodation for Jarron who should be deep into our record book by the end of the year. Jarron has earned some stature and I hope Brannen realizes that it can not be my way or the highway. This could be a special season if Jarron achieves all he is capable of. The alternative without him is to finish around 500 and break our tournament string. Given the options I am for Coach giving in some and recognizing that Jarron is not just another player. The most succcessful coaches have been the most deferential to players IMO. Sparky Anderson and Phil Jackson come to mind among others.
Outside of coach ensuring Jarron he can succeed more in his system if he buys in...I don't know. Coach wants to get him in ISO but not the way Jarron probably would prefer. CJB is probably just fine letting him launch 3's any time he has space (or not). Look at the shots Jaevin takes? Many of them are just egregious and not likely to be successful. Jaevin would probably be hitting 50% if he just took smart shots.
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Old 11-14-2019, 09:39 PM   #87
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Aside from the last 10 minutes of the 1st half, it was a pretty good effort all around.

Vogt played a stellar game.

Tre looked like the confident and competent player of last year.

Jaevin made plays at each end of the floor

The younger guys all made positive strides.

One concern early on though is McNeal's outside shooting. He's 2-16 through 3 games from 3.
McNeal has had some pretty good looks too...

Keith is fitting in the system pretty well if he can keep his intensity up
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Really questioning some early shots from way behind the arc (not just this game). We can get off shots way behind the arc at any time in just about any game if we take them from as far back as some of our shots have been. Why not run a little offense first and then later on in the clock go for a bomb?

I may be mistaken but Jaevin may have passed up a 2 on 1 break to go for a pull up 3 basically off the run from top of key. If we want to get more fouls...we need to take those to the hole.
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There was a quote by McNeal after the Drake game about shooting only 3's and layups and FT's. I was happy to see Scott get going in mid range because that is a range he can get hot from. It's not what you are looking for obviously the mid range 2. But I don't mind certain players taking them if open. Scott is one and Jarron is one. Not Keith. Keith is doing exactly what he should be...shooting open 3's and going to the rack. Neither Vogt or Sorolla should ever shoot the mid range 2. Jaevin probably not since he can make 3's and can sometimes get to the rack but his passing close to the bucket was awesome. McNeal I would probably rather shoot 3's or go to the rack. But haven't seen much of his mid range game.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:12 PM   #90
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I have a feeling John Brannen would rather Jarron stayed in the draft.

Had that vibe way before tonight.

Don’t think the optics look well for Brannen if he can’t find a way to make it work with an all American.
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