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Old 07-06-2017, 12:17 PM   #551
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Who wants to bet the over under at 80 ppg this year?
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Old 07-06-2017, 12:57 PM   #552
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Who wants to bet the over under at 80 ppg this year?
If we can increase possessions by around 5 per game and maintain our efficiency from last year we will be right around 80 ppg. Last year we were at 67.3 possessions per game at around 1.1 ppp for 74.3 ppg.

We were ranked around 325 last year in possessions per game. If we can add 5 possessions we can be around the top 140 at 72.3 and add 5.5 pts to our 74.3 ppg from last year. That would be 79.8ppg.

Not only will we have PG's pushing pace but we will "reportedly" be pressing more. I could see our PPP going up this year too with easier transition buckets as well maybe getting a little better from 3.

When the shot clock was reduced by 5 seconds we added about 11 ppg in scoring. If we can reduce another 3 seconds per possession by pushing pace and pressing a bit...we could add the additional 6 points we need to crack 80. As many times as we plodded up the court last year I could see us shaving these possession times down quite a bit.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:54 PM   #553
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If we can increase possessions by around 5 per game and maintain our efficiency from last year we will be right around 80 ppg. Last year we were at 67.3 possessions per game at around 1.1 ppp for 74.3 ppg.

We were ranked around 325 last year in possessions per game. If we can add 5 possessions we can be around the top 140 at 72.3 and add 5.5 pts to our 74.3 ppg from last year. That would be 79.8ppg.

Not only will we have PG's pushing pace but we will "reportedly" be pressing more. I could see our PPP going up this year too with easier transition buckets as well maybe getting a little better from 3.

When the shot clock was reduced by 5 seconds we added about 11 ppg in scoring. If we can reduce another 3 seconds per possession by pushing pace and pressing a bit...we could add the additional 6 points we need to crack 80. As many times as we plodded up the court last year I could see us shaving these possession times down quite a bit.

I want our Pace to Model after Louisville. They ranked 195 in pace. However offensively they ranked 67th and defensively 348th.

Overall the pace will be mid level but we can still play fast on offense. Good defensive teams don't let good shots off early in the shot clock so on that end of the ball we are cutting into overall possessions. BUT when we have the ball, we should be pushing on missed baskets and getting the best shot we can in under 16 seconds.


Last year we used 18.7 seconds of clock on offense and forced other teams to use 18.1

Louisville used 16.2 seconds on offense and forced other teams to use 18.7


Us using 18.7 on offense means were letting a lot of teams get set on defense. We can drop 2 seconds off that # and then keep our defense the same, we will drastically move up the pace rankings and thus put more points on the board
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Old 07-06-2017, 05:16 PM   #554
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I want our Pace to Model after Louisville. They ranked 195 in pace. However offensively they ranked 67th and defensively 348th.

Overall the pace will be mid level but we can still play fast on offense. Good defensive teams don't let good shots off early in the shot clock so on that end of the ball we are cutting into overall possessions. BUT when we have the ball, we should be pushing on missed baskets and getting the best shot we can in under 16 seconds.


Last year we used 18.7 seconds of clock on offense and forced other teams to use 18.1

Louisville used 16.2 seconds on offense and forced other teams to use 18.7


Us using 18.7 on offense means were letting a lot of teams get set on defense. We can drop 2 seconds off that # and then keep our defense the same, we will drastically move up the pace rankings and thus put more points on the board
That is almost precisely what I would like to see! I think we can shave 2.5 seconds on Offense but I would be okay with holding steady on D. Not sure we will improve there.

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I did not realize Gary Clark will likely join the 1,000 point club in his first game of the season needing only 4 points if the source is correct (sports reference). He has a legit chance to finish in the top 15 or so. He's never even reached 11 ppg for a season. Now THAT is consistency!

Evans will likely join the 1,000 point club this year as well around mid season. If Evans stays all 4 years he could land near the top 5.

Anyone know where to find an updated list of career scoring/stats at UC? The archives at GoBearcats are outdated. Unacceptable!

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Old 07-07-2017, 09:23 AM   #556
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I did not realize Gary Clark will likely join the 1,000 point club in his first game of the season needing only 4 points if the source is correct (sports reference). He has a legit chance to finish in the top 15 or so. He's never even reached 11 ppg for a season. Now THAT is consistency!

Evans will likely join the 1,000 point club this year as well around mid season. If Evans stays all 4 years he could land near the top 5.

Anyone know where to find an updated list of career scoring/stats at UC? The archives at GoBearcats are outdated.
Looks like it would take an average of 10ppg for 3 seasons of 34 games to break the 1,000 point club or 15 ppg for 2 seasons at 34 games.

Kyle with an outside chance if he can average 15 ppg over 36 games or a little over 14 ppg if we can play 38 games+.
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Looks like it would take an average of 10ppg for 3 seasons of 34 games to break the 1,000 point club or 15 ppg for 2 seasons at 34 games.

Kyle with an outside chance if he can average 15 ppg over 36 games or a little over 14 ppg if we can play 38 games+.
In the last 7 season we have played

36 games
33
34
34
34
35
35

For a 34.5 avg. If we make the conference finals again and make it to (or hopefully past) the second weekend of the dance...we could best last year.

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Old 07-07-2017, 01:14 PM   #558
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It would be interesting to see what the fans think of our current batch of starters compared to Cronin's best recruits at each position. Who would you take at each position before our starters?

Washington
Clark
Evans
Cumberland
Broome


SK? Born Ready (1 year)? Gates? Vaughn? Caupain/Cash?

I would put SK in there no doubt. After that I would probably take my chances with the current bunch.
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It would be interesting to see what the fans think of our current batch of starters compared to Cronin's best recruits at each position. Who would you take at each position before our starters?

Washington
Clark
Evans
Cumberland
Broome


SK? Born Ready (1 year)? Gates? Vaughn? Caupain/Cash?

I would put SK in there no doubt. After that I would probably take my chances with the current bunch.
This is not a knock on the current team but if I am judging this based on entire career for former players and career to this point for current players, my team looks like this:

Vaughn
SK
Evans
Clark
Gates
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Old 07-07-2017, 05:11 PM   #560
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This is not a knock on the current team but if I am judging this based on entire career for former players and career to this point for current players, my team looks like this:

Vaughn
SK
Evans
Clark
Gates
Hard to argue with your line-up.
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