Season Updates

[waterhead]

I still would want Harvey on the team. I thought he would challenge for MIP on team. But if you can score better than another player but the other player can do everything else well...there really isn't much difference in what they both offer.

If he showed an unwillingness to do those other things...as a coach you have to put the other guy in. Now I am not saying I know who that other guy is Mason or MAW or whoever. I don't think anyone has thoroughly outplayed Harvey in every other facet.

There was obviously a disconnect here. Part of that could be on the player and part of that could be on the coach. It's now history though...

I would have liked to see him come in JR year and take over for Keith but who's to say he would have been penciled in as a starter? He hasn't really started yet and there was/is a prime opportunity this year to do just that.

[waterhead]

Originally Posted by cincrulz11

I think the low assist rate comes from he didn't really try to do anything on offense. He'd shoot the wide open 3, or just pass it back out 30 feet from the rim. it wasn't from a selfish standpoint.


actually the more i write and think about it, i guess he was kind of going through the motions out there. unless it was transition, he was great in transition.

I thought he was getting to the rim a lot more during his last 6 games or so than he had in the past. I could be wrong and maybe I was just looking too much for the times he did.

[Lefty]

Originally Posted by cincrulz11

I mean i really like advanced stats, but I'd like to know what goes into them before judging them.


I could say Harvey had an insane eFG (73) and TS (72.5) in conference, which he did. But its because he hit 10-16 3's in conference play. A number like that isn't sustainable for anybody in the world, and he's probably a guy that shoots half that. Harvey could have been in for some of our awful awful runs, which we go on frequently, and that could screw up some sort of plus/minus stat in just 12 games. And those runs could have had nothing to do with him.


But I think you can see the athlete, you can see how fluid his movement is. He handles the ball well. He's great in transition. He can lock down with on ball defense.


I viewed him as a more athletic Keith but similar issues to Keith in that his shot needs to be fixed. Keith never got his shot figured out and thats why he's shooting 24% from the floor for any shot that isn't at the rim. Harvey puts so much arc on every shot theres no way he can be consistent.

But projecting him going forward, he had by far the most potential of any wing on the roster.

Never played basketball but does shot arc really
detriment % made consistency ?
I’m thinking of the X player from a couple years
ago that went for 40 vs UC - he had a pretty good
sized arc.

[sedziobs]

Originally Posted by Lefty

Never played basketball but does shot arc really
detriment % made consistency ?
I’m thinking of the X player from a couple years
ago that went for 40 vs UC - he had a pretty good
sized arc.

There's a tradeoff. Too flat of a shot decreases the size of the target area since the plane of the hoop is at a tighter angle to the ball path. Too high of a shot increases the distance the ball travels (and the force required), so inaccuracy is magnified. Some players can become good shooters with flat or high arcing shots, but in general they are not ideal.

[justinhub2003]

Let’s just win on Sunday then we don’t have to even think about Zach Harvey.

If UC can beat Houston on Sunday, then they have a legit shot at running the table. No one in this league scares me outside of Houston. And I was much higher on Houston when they had Caleb mills who I feel was their crunch time player.

This league is absolutely pathetic. Next year John has to use a Mick Cronin Approach for the schedule. We will be too young and inexperienced to play too many tough games in a row. We cant eliminate our selves from the tourney in the non con

[TheLivingLegend]

Not the best time to announce 1350 fans allowed to buy tickets and attend...

[cincyguy13]

Looking at some of the recruits we are interested in for 21, I like some of them. I don’t know the interest levels, I don’t follow recruiting too much but a couple of them look good.

The French kid Adana bal looks like a player.

Exauce manissa looks like the player many are looking for. 6’9, great body, not many skills but would be a project.

Bryson spell, good size and skill, many slower but looks decent.

Anyone know anything about these guys?

[sedziobs]

Here's our resume right now:

Q1: 1-3
Q2: 2-3
Bad losses: 2

Generally bubble teams are around .500 in Q1&2 games with 1 or 2 bad losses. As bad as this season has been for us, a different result in just a couple games would change the outlook and I might have been following the bubble. Of course our wins have been by tiny margins so we aren't very good in the metrics, but I like to think even some modest improvements could make us competitive again.

[cincrulz11]

Originally Posted by cincyguy13

Bryson spell, good size and skill, many slower but looks decent.

Anyone know anything about these guys?

A true stretch 4. That would be an amazing get.

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by cincrulz11

A true stretch 4. That would be an amazing get.

If we want him, then there should be no excuses not to land him. VTech is his only other high major offer and I like to think UC is a better option. His other options are Elon and other mid major.