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Old 12-14-2019, 09:04 PM   #131
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Ok Ten games in, and I'm okay with benching/moving on from Jarron at this point. Yes he's not the sole reason we loss, Vogt is the opposing teams big man that all big men lick there chops on having a great offensive night against.

Brannen has to sacrifice buckets for D.

But Jarron, he can take that AAU attitude somewhere else. Team Moral killer, and Transfer portal starter. uuuugh
Uhhhhhhh


What are you talking about.

Jarron took 8 shots tonight
He had 4 assists tonight where he perfectly set up how teams
He defended whilst still clearly in pain

He had 8/6/4 lol he played the role of glue guy tonight while Jaevin, Vogt, & Williams all took more or as many shots as Jarron


This is the worst take of this thread dude.


He made a mistake. But remember it was Jaevin who missed 2 free throws, turned the ball over, then fouled which lead to more points from Colgate.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:09 PM   #132
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Remember when I said teams won’t be afraid to test Vogt based on his poor defensive rating in synergy ?

This team wasn’t scared of Vogt what so ever.

They took it to him. And he will be a target all season long.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:10 PM   #133
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Brannen referred to Vogt's bad defense in this press conference as well. Said Colgate took advantage of ball screens and dragging Vogt away from the basket and "it's tough because he gives us so much offensively".

It's going to continue to be a theme against every good team. If Vogt is going to play, we need to find a way to hide him on the defensive end.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:10 PM   #134
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I think this season goes one of two ways after tonight. They rally and become a bubblish team ( like Xavier last year), or it turns in to a dumpster fire. Will be interesting.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:11 PM   #135
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Remember when I said teams won’t be afraid to test Vogt based on his poor defensive rating in synergy ?

This team wasn’t scared of Vogt what so ever.

They took it to him. And he will be a target all season long.
And he will be the best player on the team next year if Williams transfers (which he should), which is pretty frightening.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:11 PM   #136
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Yeah, it was micks system. I would hope they played better with the coach that recruited them for a specific role in that system. That would make sense.
The same guys cant be this bad. A lot on has to be on the current coach. If Brooks stayed this was a top 15 team
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:13 PM   #137
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Remember when I said teams won’t be afraid to test Vogt based on his poor defensive rating in synergy ?

This team wasn’t scared of Vogt what so ever.

They took it to him. And he will be a target all season long.
Yeah, We get it, what’s the solution? Kenyon isn’t walking through that door
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:14 PM   #138
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The same guys cant be this bad. A lot on has to be on the current coach. If Brooks stayed this was a top 15 team
Brooks left 7 months ago. Mick left around the same time. They aren’t coming back. Might be time to get over it.
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I think this season goes one of two ways after tonight. They rally and become a bubblish team ( like Xavier last year), or it turns in to a dumpster fire. Will be interesting.
I'm expecting dumpster fire. I'd be surprised if we win more than one of the next three (and 0-3 wouldn't surprise me). Without Jarron and Scott fitting in the system, we just don't have the ability to be a good team. It would be nice if Brannen was good enough at coaching to adjust and help them succeed, but Brannen seems just as set in coaching his scheme regardless of the players as Cronin was.
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I don’t think we will be worse. It will be guys use to the system. The players we are losing aren’t giving us much anyway because of injuries and what else. It won’t be great but it might be interesting to see how guys grow.
They will be much worse. This is probably the best team they will have for the next decade. Brannen is completely in over his head. Hiring mistakes like this are what send teams into the wilderness for a quarter century.
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