12-09-2019, 07:34 PM | #271 | |
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But we're not comparing Diarra to Brooks, we are comparing him to Vogt. If Cronin was coaching and it was a choice between Vogt and Diarra, I have no doubt that Diarra would be getting the majority of minutes. In fact, I'm not sure Cronin would ever even put Vogt in the game. I'm not entirely sure of Brannen's reasoning. He seems to be overly committed to keeping his main six guys in the game. I'd venture a couple of guesses though. 1. Brannen cares more about offense than he does about defense/rebounding. For Cronin, backups earned minutes by playing hard, defending and rebounding. For Brannen, it seems subs earn minutes by running the offense how he wants it run. Diarra does the former, but not the latter. 2. Brannen thinks the problem defensively isn't Vogt. Basically thinking that the guards just shouldn't get driven on and thus a rim protecting center isn't essential. If that is the case, Brannen is hardheadedly refusing to see reality. In a perfect world, everyone would play perfect man-to-man D, but in the real world a mobile rim protecting center makes a huge difference defensively. As for the fans. I think many fans focus on the offensive end, especially a large number who hated how much Mick focused on defense. Fans loved Kyle Washington and I was not a big fan of his either. It's easy to see how good Vogt is on offense when he's making good moves to put the ball in the basket. It takes more attention to see how Diarra positively effects the defense in a lot of small ways that don't show up on the stat sheet. Or to see Vogt negatively effecting the defense in ways that don't show up on the stat sheet. Last edited by skyblade; 12-09-2019 at 07:59 PM. |
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12-09-2019, 07:47 PM | #272 | |
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I don't think Vogt or Diarra are good enough to be starting centers in the American. Neither is a complete player, both are bad on one end of the court. Others see Vogt as the teams MVP or comparable to Brooks. I see Diarra and Vogt being situational subs for 10-15 minutes per game, in a perfect world. But we don't have a high-quality starting center. I think we can all agree that Diarra has a huge hole in his game. But where we disagree is that Vogt also has a huge hole in his game. I consider Vogt to be bad to terrible on defense and same for Diarra on offense. But I think Diarra can improve, whereas Vogt is what he is. |
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12-09-2019, 08:30 PM | #273 |
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Why couldn't Vogt improve defensively...
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12-09-2019, 09:21 PM | #275 |
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Basically Skyblade is advocating replacing a guy that is averaging 12.6 pts, 7 rebs, 1.6 blocks, shooting 67% from the field with a guy who in three years has never scored 10 points in a single game and has only once gotten more rebounds in a game than what Vogt averages per game ....makes sense.
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12-09-2019, 10:01 PM | #276 | |
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I think it’s very reckless of fans to advocate he leave the program because the coach doesn’t value defense over offense. Give me a break. They spend 70 percent of their time on defense. Again Brannen knows what he wants and needs each player to do and as long as they do them and do them well they can play |
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12-10-2019, 05:48 AM | #277 |
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As a fan, I would rather Diarra be better. He’s been in the program for 3 years, he’s likable and easy to root for. Vogt just came to the program. He’s also likable but I would much rather Diarra be better. The fact is he isn’t. Throw in all the stats you want, he just isn’t good, offensively or defensively. If you watch the games, it’s not hard to see that. He doesn’t know how to play basketball. He doesn’t have the feel for the game. The idea of him is great but the reality is not.
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12-10-2019, 07:45 AM | #278 | |
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On blocks and rebounds is he running around like a chicken with his head cut off or is there a method he is following? Is he trying to block too many shots he can't reach leaving the offensive rebound out there? When rebounding is he boxing out his man first so the team has the best chance to get the rebound or he is just a loose cannon out there? I think we can all admit Diara is a more mobile defender and that works well for those situations but who is better for the team overall? I think CJB has made that very apparent and that Diara is not even the 2nd option. |
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12-10-2019, 07:57 AM | #279 | |
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Often times I agree with getting guys more minutes...assuming they have already displayed in practice the ability to do what is being asked. I don't have any idea what is going on with guys like Diara and Harvey but it's not rocket science either. They probably make too many mistakes for Brannen's comfort whether it's strategic mistakes or physical ones... |
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