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Old 01-25-2019, 12:55 PM   #31
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thats not really a choice. teams will let him shoot them until his arms fall off. even if he shoots them at 40%, which is good for college at mid-range, every defense will be ok with that. it also takes our 2nd best offensive rebounder on the floor at any given time (assuming we never play with eli, brooks, and scott) away from the rim.

Imo his mid range jumper is just a build up until he ultimately is able to step out and be a 3 point threat.

Gary Clark did it. Gary started with the mid range and just kept. Icing further back until it was ultimately part of his game.

Gary got a year head start on it because he had no one in front of him but imo Trevon has a chance to shoot the 3 like Kyle Washington or Gary Clark next season.

The thing with Tre so far is that he is either on or off. When he is on, he makes every jump shot he takes. When he is off, his shot is flat.

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Old 01-25-2019, 01:17 PM   #32
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Imo his mid range jumper is just a build up until he ultimately is able to step out and be a 3 point threat.

Gary Clark did it. Gary started with the mid range and just kept. Icing further back until it was ultimately part of his game.

Gary got a year head start on it because he had no one in front of him but imo Trevon has a chance to shoot the 3 like Kyle Washington or Gary Clark next season.

The thing with Tre so far is that he is either on or off. When he is on, he makes every jump shot he takes. When he is off, his shot is flat.
Yup I get it. I still hate it early in the shotclock. Always will. Really a long 2 by anyone with more than 15-18 seconds on the shitclock is just bad basketball.

But you are right. When Scott makes 1, its like he canít miss hardly.
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Old 01-25-2019, 01:26 PM   #33
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thats not really a choice. teams will let him shoot them until his arms fall off. even if he shoots them at 40%, which is good for college at mid-range, every defense will be ok with that. it also takes our 2nd best offensive rebounder on the floor at any given time (assuming we never play with eli, brooks, and scott) away from the rim.
Keith Williams is the second best offensive rebounder on our team
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Old 01-25-2019, 05:58 PM   #34
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Keith Williams is the second best offensive rebounder on our team
the numbers dont say so. KW is good for a guard on the offensive glass, but he doesn't put up big man rebounding stats.
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Old 01-25-2019, 06:06 PM   #35
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Imo his mid range jumper is just a build up until he ultimately is able to step out and be a 3 point threat.

Gary Clark did it. Gary started with the mid range and just kept. Icing further back until it was ultimately part of his game.

Gary got a year head start on it because he had no one in front of him but imo Trevon has a chance to shoot the 3 like Kyle Washington or Gary Clark next season.

The thing with Tre so far is that he is either on or off. When he is on, he makes every jump shot he takes. When he is off, his shot is flat.

he just looks so uncomfortable out there. i never got that vibe from gary.


i agree when scott is on he's on, and when he's not, well he's not. his previous 15 games he was shooting 32.7% from midrange. also he's shooting 62% from the FT line if you just take out that one 12-13 game (which happens to be his career average too).
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:41 AM   #36
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the numbers dont say so. KW is good for a guard on the offensive glass, but he doesn't put up big man rebounding stats.
Offensive rebounding is not treís forte he doesnít get good position on the post, kw doesnít need position he just out jumps people
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Offensive rebounding is not treís forte he doesnít get good position on the post, kw doesnít need position he just out jumps people

but even then Scott is at 8.2 OR% and williams is at 6.8.



in 7 conference games williams has 7, and scott has 14.



scott is by no means great at it, but he's not terrible. i think we just usually have so many great offensive rebounders we forget what average looks like.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:00 AM   #38
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but even then Scott is at 8.2 OR% and williams is at 6.8.



in 7 conference games williams has 7, and scott has 14.



scott is by no means great at it, but he's not terrible. i think we just usually have so many great offensive rebounders we forget what average looks like.
As a team we are at 34.7%, which is good enough for 19th in the NCAA. Last years 37.5% was tied for first. We aren't so much average as no longer quite as awesome.

Brooks is at 12.1%, same as Clark was last year and much better then KW was last year.

Scott's 8.2% is comperable to Washington's 8.3% last year.

Williams 7.0% is quite a bit better then Evans 5.2% last year.

If Scott can get back close to his ORB% last year, we will be in good shape. Although we still have the weakness of his backup(s). Fredericks is actually putting up good rebounding numbers (9.1% ORB), but that's about the only thing he has done well. Moore is at only 2.8%, which is about what I'd expect from him given his size and athleticism (or lack there of). But terrible for the 4 spot when we play small lineups.
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As a team we are at 34.7%, which is good enough for 19th in the NCAA. Last years 37.5% was tied for first. We aren't so much average as no longer quite as awesome.

Brooks is at 12.1%, same as Clark was last year and much better then KW was last year.

Scott's 8.2% is comperable to Washington's 8.3% last year.

Williams 7.0% is quite a bit better then Evans 5.2% last year.

If Scott can get back close to his ORB% last year, we will be in good shape. Although we still have the weakness of his backup(s). Fredericks is actually putting up good rebounding numbers (9.1% ORB), but that's about the only thing he has done well. Moore is at only 2.8%, which is about what I'd expect from him given his size and athleticism (or lack there of). But terrible for the 4 spot when we play small lineups.



I didn't mean average as a team, I just meant Scott is average for a big. Brooks and Nsoseme are both very good. KW is good for a guard.
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