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Old 03-04-2019, 11:12 AM   #61
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Id like to compare our last years season resume to this one to see how far off we are from last years resume

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Old 03-04-2019, 11:43 AM   #62
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Last year, going into the conference tournament we were 5-4 in Q1 and 8-0 in Q2 with no bad losses. This year we are 4-2 in Q1, 6-1 in Q2 with 1 bad loss.
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:49 AM   #63
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6. Houston (Q1-A,Q1-A)
21. Cincinnati
22. Mississippi St (Q1-A)
29. UCF (Q1-A,Q1)
37. Ole Miss (Q1)
43. Ohio St (Q2)
53. Memphis (Q1,Q2)
57. Temple (Q1)
70. Xavier (Q2)
82. South Florida
91. Wichita St (Q2)
94. UConn (Q2)
99. Tulsa (Q2)
115. SMU (Q2)
158. UNLV
253. East Carolina (Q4)
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:50 AM   #64
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NET appears to be great for our conference. The top 5 teams are all higher on NET than on Kenpom and 4/5 higher than Barttorvik (UCF is 28 on barttorvik and 29 on NET)
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:57 AM   #65
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It also helps compared to RPI. Using RPI, our team sheet records would be 4-2 in Q1 and 4-1 in Q2. So the switch to NET this year has given us a couple extra quality wins.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:02 PM   #66
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It also helps compared to RPI. Using RPI, our team sheet records would be 4-2 in Q1 and 4-1 in Q2. So the switch to NET this year has given us a couple extra quality wins.
i wondered about that but was too lazy to try to look it up. i honestly wasn't even sure if rpi was being updated this year.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:13 PM   #67
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i wondered about that but was too lazy to try to look it up. i honestly wasn't even sure if rpi was being updated this year.
Warren Nolan still calculates RPI.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:14 PM   #68
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Last year, our metrics at the end of the regular season were RPI: 7, BPI: 5, Kenpom: 4, Sagarin: 6, and KPI: 9. Our 4 losses were all against highly rated teams no matter what the metrics were. Unfortunately, this season our losses have been to lesser competition. Houston is similar to X, Miss St is similar to Florida, but ECU is nowhere close to the Houston loss last year and Ohio St is a home loss that is about 30 spots worse than Wichita was last year.

This is a big week to help our overall resume. It would be incredible to finish 27-4 again.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:37 AM   #69
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3 games ago UCF was around 44th on T-rank and UC was 32nd. Both teams win all 3 games. UCF is now at 27th and UC at 34th. We were up 12 and now we are down 7 for a 19 point swing. Just goes to show what playing good basketball will do for your metrics compared to clawing out wins.

We are still doing well in the quadrants but we haven't done anything for our metrics in a long time. I would imagine our metrics will drop us a seed line from wherever our NET quadrants end up unless we just crush from here on out but we haven't really shown any signs of breaking out recently.

Our defense has been impressive the last 5 games. Our average efficiency on T-rank would rank us 2nd if it were an entire season. Our offense would be around 175 over the last 5 games. We just can't seem to put complete games together. Had we kept our offense where it was and just improved our D we would be looking very good right now. It seems like when we are doing one thing well something else suffers. The team can only seem to focus on so many things at one time.

We are exactly at the point where it would be nice to put complete games together given our two remaining opponents and tourneys coming up.
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:32 AM   #70
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If you're going to talk about metrics, it would probably be wise to limit them to the ones the committee uses. Those are BPI, Kempom, and Sagarin. Torvik's site is interesting for fans, but is irrelevant in terms of bracketology. As I have said previously, Torvik's ratings are extremely volatile and don't do a good job with large scoring margins. We're exacly 5 spots ahead of UCF in all of the committee's metrics, but 7 points behind them in T-Rank.

UC
29 BPI
31 Kenpom
26 Sagarin
34 Torvik

UCF
34 BPI
36 Kenpom
31 Sagarin
27 Torvik
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