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Old 12-06-2018, 10:46 AM   #11
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He said better team. I disagree. They have more talent.

they might have more talents players but they don't play defense.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:50 AM   #12
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they might have more talents players but they don't play defense.
It's not like it's just one facet of defense either, I have watched all of our games. We play good 2pt defense for about 12 mins a half and rotten 3pt defense all game.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:51 AM   #13
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they might have more talents players but they don't play defense.
To to say we "should" win the game is setting everyone up. Could we win yes but should we is a being a bit too ambitious IMO.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:31 AM   #14
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In all likelihood, Tyrique Jones won't play. He took a shot to the head taking a charge and hitting his head on an opponent's knee last night.
That would be a huge loss. As we've discussed in other threads, UC's major weakness is defensive rebounding. Jones has the second highest offensive rebounding rate in the country.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:44 AM   #15
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Better playing Team yes. But we certainly do not have the most talent.

Xavier has 5 4 star players, 4 of which were top 100 and 1 was nearly a 5 star.

They have far more talent then our mostly 3 star roster.

If we win 2 out of the next 3 games, will have played way way way above our talent level because every one of those teams have far more talent then we do.

Brooks 3 star, Scott 3 star (an offensively challenged one at that), jenifer 3 star, diarra 3 star, cane 2-3 star, nsesome 3-star, Trevor Moore 3-star, Logan Johnson 3 star on most sites but really low grade 4 star on 247.

Keith and jarron are the only consensus 4 stars on our entire roster.


We need to win this game with defense, rebounding and playing as a team. Also people better acknowledge mick as a really damn good coach if we can beat all these teams with far more talent then we have.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:37 PM   #16
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Better playing Team yes. But we certainly do not have the most talent.

Xavier has 5 4 star players, 4 of which were top 100 and 1 was nearly a 5 star.

They have far more talent then our mostly 3 star roster.

If we win 2 out of the next 3 games, will have played way way way above our talent level because every one of those teams have far more talent then we do.

Brooks 3 star, Scott 3 star (an offensively challenged one at that), jenifer 3 star, diarra 3 star, cane 2-3 star, nsesome 3-star, Trevor Moore 3-star, Logan Johnson 3 star on most sites but really low grade 4 star on 247.

Keith and jarron are the only consensus 4 stars on our entire roster.


We need to win this game with defense, rebounding and playing as a team. Also people better acknowledge mick as a really damn good coach if we can beat all these teams with far more talent then we have.
who cares about talent measured on the basis of dumb projections about kids when they were 17?

the metrics show we are the better team going into this matchup. that is the basis of people saying we are the better team.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:43 PM   #17
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Better playing Team yes. But we certainly do not have the most talent.

Xavier has 5 4 star players, 4 of which were top 100 and 1 was nearly a 5 star.

They have far more talent then our mostly 3 star roster.

If we win 2 out of the next 3 games, will have played way way way above our talent level because every one of those teams have far more talent then we do.

Brooks 3 star, Scott 3 star (an offensively challenged one at that), jenifer 3 star, diarra 3 star, cane 2-3 star, nsesome 3-star, Trevor Moore 3-star, Logan Johnson 3 star on most sites but really low grade 4 star on 247.

Keith and jarron are the only consensus 4 stars on our entire roster.


We need to win this game with defense, rebounding and playing as a team. Also people better acknowledge mick as a really damn good coach if we can beat all these teams with far more talent then we have.
My point exactly. We should never say we "should" win this game. Agree on the coach comments as well but that will never happen.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:02 PM   #18
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who cares about talent measured on the basis of dumb projections about kids when they were 17?

the metrics show we are the better team going into this matchup. that is the basis of people saying we are the better team.
what you dont think Jermaine Lawrence is the best player we've had the past 6 years?
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:18 PM   #19
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what you dont think Jermaine Lawrence is the best player we've had the past 6 years?
this is a good post.

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My point exactly. We should never say we "should" win this game. Agree on the coach comments as well but that will never happen.
this is a bad post. we are the better team. we are at home. we should win.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:21 PM   #20
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Better playing Team yes. But we certainly do not have the most talent.

Xavier has 5 4 star players, 4 of which were top 100 and 1 was nearly a 5 star.

They have far more talent then our mostly 3 star roster.


this is the year xavier should be their weakest. bluiett and macura 2014 recruits, jones and goodin 2016 recruits, nothing from 2015. goodin is hurt this season and jones might not play saturday.


probably wont want to mess with them next year if they all come back. this is the year to do it.
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