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Old 04-28-2022, 09:03 AM   #231
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I've become less convinced Davenport's minutes will go down. Davenport is the only proven sharpshooter on the team. Hard to put the only shooter on the bench when you've got a team full of not very good shooters.

If some other guys can knock down 35+% from three, it becomes easier to move Davenport to the bench. But until other guys prove it, Davenport is the only one you can really trust to knock down threes.
True Statement..But is it worth what we are giving up on the defensive end? Plus, he has to work overtime on his handle and motor this offseason. Teams realized late in season to crowd Davenport, and his 3pt ability dipped. I'm praying he works on his handle, that would make him more deadly, and his Free Throw attempts would skyrocket.


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Old 04-28-2022, 09:11 AM   #232
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True Statement..But is it worth what we are giving up on the defensive end? Plus, he has to work overtime on his handle and motor this offseason. Teams realized late in season to crowd Davenport, and his 3pt ability dipped. I'm praying he works on his handle, that would make him more deadly, and his Free Throw attempts would skyrocket.
Yeah, Davenport with a better handle would be big. But even if they are crowding him out, at least they have to extend one guy outside the three point line on defense.

The scouting report on everyone else on the team from three is at best don't give up open catch-and-shoot threes and at worst play off and let them shoot it.

Without Davenport on the court (and even with him on the court) teams are going to crowd the paint, dare us to shoot over them and hope DDJ, Nolley and Ezikpe follow their historical shooting patterns and jack up a bunch of long 2's.

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Old 04-28-2022, 09:34 AM   #233
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Nolley is a good enough ball handler and passer that he could play a point forward role. In an ideal world, that means DDJ could be an off ball 1 and we could run a longer guy like Newman out there at the 2. If we did that I'd be more comfortable with Davenport at the 4, which would give us more shooting while having enough length to compensate for defensive weaknesses.

To Skyblade's point, he's not an efficient scorer with only a 50.6 career true shooting percentage. While that's not great, it's in line with most of our team. But he is a creator, which is something we have been lacking.

We are bringing in 4 players between 6'5" and 6'8", and we didn't lose anyone in that range. We're moving towards a versatile positionless basketball type of roster.
This would be my preference or DDJ for a spurt at the 1. Not a long time but for 10 minutes get Rob and MAW off the floor. Allows 3 best scorers and Newman to be on the floor with whoever our best big ends up being.
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Old 04-28-2022, 09:54 AM   #234
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This would seem to indicate that he can probably make a high percentage of open, catch-and-shoot threes. But he is not a guy you want creating his own shot (from anywhere frankly).

As you say, shot selection is the biggest issue. Take only open catch-and-shoot threes and cut out the long 2's and he'd likely be a really good shooter. Though if he did that his usage would probably go way down. If Wes doesn't do something about shot selection (for him, Nolley, Ezikpe and DDJ), we are in for a long season of bad shots.
You can't say that about everyone on our team though, even the guys shooting good shots. Just look at their true shooting percentages. MAW was only 45.9 last year and 50.0 for his career despite much better shot selection. Same with Newman at 48.0 last year and 49.2 for his career (though he did have a good sophomore season). Ody was 50.2, Hensley 47.5. Lakhin, at 54.9, was the only efficient scorer on the team.

Players who can put up similar efficiency numbers on higher volume with poorer shot selection are clearly better shooters. With that in mind, Davenport, Nolley, Ezikpe, DDJ, and Lakhin are our best scorers, I would say in that order. Nolley will easily be the best if he can repeat his sophomore form. Lakhin could be really good but his volume is too low to tell so far.

Since we don't have a good system here, someone has to create offense. Last year DDJ and Davenport were the only options. Now we have Nolley and Ezikpe, plus Phinisee as a distributor. So even though we're bringing in two more guys who take bad shots, the offense should improve. Obviously nowhere close to our 2017 team that had 3 guys at 58.5 or better.
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:12 AM   #235
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We are now ranked #47 on Torvik's RosterCast (you have to add DDJ and Newman back in). The depth chart looks something like this:

PG: MAW 25 / Phinisee 15
SG: DDJ 30 / Skillings 10
SF: Nolley 15 / Newman 25
PF: Davenport 25 / Nolley 15
C: Ezikpe 20 / Ody 10 / Lakhin 10
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:26 AM   #236
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This actually our best line up

MAW
Nolley
Davenport
Ody
Ezikpe
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:29 AM   #237
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I'm with Skyblade, we need more shooters. I think keeping McGinnis or Madsen over Phinisee was better option. Rather had a guy like McNeil over DDJ also. We still have ZERO above rim guards or shooters.
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:32 AM   #238
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I know basically all teams are older now in CBB but MAw, DDJ, Newman, Davenport basically all 4th or 5th yr players. We need all four to step up to plate or develop Reed and Skillings over them.
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You can't say that about everyone on our team though, even the guys shooting good shots. Just look at their true shooting percentages. MAW was only 45.9 last year and 50.0 for his career despite much better shot selection. Same with Newman at 48.0 last year and 49.2 for his career (though he did have a good sophomore season). Ody was 50.2, Hensley 47.5. Lakhin, at 54.9, was the only efficient scorer on the team.

Players who can put up similar efficiency numbers on higher volume with poorer shot selection are clearly better shooters. With that in mind, Davenport, Nolley, Ezikpe, DDJ, and Lakhin are our best scorers, I would say in that order. Nolley will easily be the best if he can repeat his sophomore form. Lakhin could be really good but his volume is too low to tell so far.

Since we don't have a good system here, someone has to create offense. Last year DDJ and Davenport were the only options. Now we have Nolley and Ezikpe, plus Phinisee as a distributor. So even though we're bringing in two more guys who take bad shots, the offense should improve. Obviously nowhere close to our 2017 team that had 3 guys at 58.5 or better.
Nice assessment. I would add that a Wes style vs a Cronin style is drastically different in shot selection and tempo. Therefore I would assume our efficiency will lag behind once again. But it's also possible that some of these guys would have much better efficiency in slower tempo with much safer shot selections. We aren't doing that style so we won't know.
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Old 04-28-2022, 10:38 AM   #240
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DDJ his 1st year was probably best all around PG we've had since Satterfield. No idea why Wes or him decided to switch roles. We need him and Nolley be top 4 on team in rebounds. The best teams are those that have players that can get rebound and start break by themselves. DDJ not going after boards last year was just as criminal as Davenport shot selection.
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