#4 Notre Dame Round 2

Thegreatone · 03-10-2011, 07:32 AM

What a great spot to be in. I love this type of game. Everything to gain and nothing to lose. This is where it benefits to be in the Big East. While some teams can really only hurt their position we have a great opportunity to significantly improve our NCAA tournament seed.

We played so poorly in the first half last time we played them and they got a shit ton of calls. We are a different team that ND saw last time. A win would put us in a 4 seed discussion IMO.

We would have wins verse:

- Nd, St. Johns, Louisville, Gtown 2x, Marquette and Xavier

That would be a very impressive 6 RPI top 25 wins and a couple other really solid wins.

We need to press the shit out of ND. They really struggled verse St. Johns when they pushed the defensive tempo.

I really like our matchup.

cincycpaw · 03-10-2011, 07:54 AM

I believe UC is a 6 seed at this point.

I think a win over ND puts us on the #5 line. I think we need to do more to move up to a #4...like make it to the Big East Final.

ohioubearcat · 03-10-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cincycpaw

I believe UC is a 6 seed at this point.

I think a win over ND puts us on the #5 line. I think we need to do more to move up to a #4...like make it to the Big East Final.

This notion that we are a 6 seed is really frustrating me. There is no reason why we should not be a 5 seed looking to get a 4 seed with a win tonight. The way we are playing right now a 6 seed would not do this team justice.

No bad losses the entire year with 5 top 25 wins....IMO that does not warrant a 6 seed.

cincycpaw · 03-10-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ohioubearcat

This notion that we are a 6 seed is really frustrating me. There is no reason why we should not be a 5 seed looking to get a 4 seed with a win tonight. The way we are playing right now a 6 seed would not do this team justice.

No bad losses the entire year with 5 top 25 wins....IMO that does not warrant a 6 seed.

Well, that's where I think UC will be placed at this point. And the number of Big East teams in the tournament could mean a team gets bumped a seed line in order to meets the other rules of the bracket.

UC has a ton of good wins. But, looking at the Top 6 seeds in the Big East tournament, UC was 2-5 against them.

I think the WVU loss last night could help UC move up to a 5 seed (taking what WVU may have had). Who knows though, all guess work.

Thegreatone · 03-10-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cincycpaw

Well, that's where I think UC will be placed at this point. And the number of Big East teams in the tournament could mean a team gets bumped a seed line in order to meets the other rules of the bracket.

UC has a ton of good wins. But, looking at the Top 6 seeds in the Big East tournament, UC was 2-5 against them.

I think the WVU loss last night could help UC move up to a 5 seed (taking what WVU may have had). Who knows though, all guess work.

I have seen a couple of projected #5 seeds that dont have any top 25 wins and have a couple of bad losses. One that we actually might have beaten by 20......

babcat · 03-10-2011, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Thegreatone

I have seen a couple of projected #5 seeds that dont have any top 25 wins and have a couple of bad losses. One that we actually might have beaten by 20......

I've seen a scenario where Xavier is a 7 seed playing Marquette as a 10 seed. I find this extremely intriguing. Let's see how strong the A-10 really is against one of the BEast's lower teams.

ohioubearcat · 03-10-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cincycpaw

Well, that's where I think UC will be placed at this point. And the number of Big East teams in the tournament could mean a team gets bumped a seed line in order to meets the other rules of the bracket.

UC has a ton of good wins. But, looking at the Top 6 seeds in the Big East tournament, UC was 2-5 against them.

I think the WVU loss last night could help UC move up to a 5 seed (taking what WVU may have had). Who knows though, all guess work.

I wasn't trying to say you were wrong with saying they are a 6 seed....I also agree that's prob where they would be put at this time. I just dont see how it is warranted. A 5 seed should theoretically mean that you consider them a top 20 team, which with their resume I think would be justified. Unfortunately I think most people are discrediting our wins against gtown bc they didn't have c. wright.

If we can win tonight....that should certainly open the selection committee's eyes! Go CATS

ucswais · 03-10-2011, 09:53 AM

As a fan, I'm way less interested in the seeding right now than the possibility to win the BE tournament. I'll give my take anyway.

It's going to be hard for UC to be a 5 seed because they normally seed 1-4 first. When they do that, I have a feeling that Syracuse, StJ, and Louisville will all fall on the 4 line. That essentially means that only 1 BE can realistically be a 5 seed regardless if the next 4 teams are all BE teams as well. At this point, I'd say Uconn or WV has a slight edge over UC for that spot. If its UConn, that pushes WV and UC to 6 seeds.

The WV loss did help though, because if we can beat ND and Uconn loses to Pitt, we still have a chance to leap those teams and get them bumped down instead of us. Also, a deep run by Syracuse or Louisville could move them up off the 4 line.

Or we can just go ahead and win the whole BET and let everybody else scramble for seeds.

Not Guilty · 03-10-2011, 11:03 AM

UC opens as a 1.5 point underdog.

psax889906 · 03-10-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ucswais

As a fan, I'm way less interested in the seeding right now than the possibility to win the BE tournament. I'll give my take anyway.

It's going to be hard for UC to be a 5 seed because they normally seed 1-4 first. When they do that, I have a feeling that Syracuse, StJ, and Louisville will all fall on the 4 line. That essentially means that only 1 BE can realistically be a 5 seed regardless if the next 4 teams are all BE teams as well. At this point, I'd say Uconn or WV has a slight edge over UC for that spot. If its UConn, that pushes WV and UC to 6 seeds.

The WV loss did help though, because if we can beat ND and Uconn loses to Pitt, we still have a chance to leap those teams and get them bumped down instead of us. Also, a deep run by Syracuse or Louisville could move them up off the 4 line.

Or we can just go ahead and win the whole BET and let everybody else scramble for seeds.

IMO, if Syracuse wins today against the Johnnies they assure themselves at least a #3 seed.

03-10-2011, 07:32 AM	#1
Thegreatone Epic Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,187	#4 Notre Dame Round 2 What a great spot to be in. I love this type of game. Everything to gain and nothing to lose. This is where it benefits to be in the Big East. While some teams can really only hurt their position we have a great opportunity to significantly improve our NCAA tournament seed. We played so poorly in the first half last time we played them and they got a shit ton of calls. We are a different team that ND saw last time. A win would put us in a 4 seed discussion IMO. We would have wins verse: - Nd, St. Johns, Louisville, Gtown 2x, Marquette and Xavier That would be a very impressive 6 RPI top 25 wins and a couple other really solid wins. We need to press the shit out of ND. They really struggled verse St. Johns when they pushed the defensive tempo. I really like our matchup.

03-10-2011, 07:54 AM	#2
cincycpaw Epic Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,680	I believe UC is a 6 seed at this point. I think a win over ND puts us on the #5 line. I think we need to do more to move up to a #4...like make it to the Big East Final.

03-10-2011, 09:53 AM	#8
ucswais Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 312	As a fan, I'm way less interested in the seeding right now than the possibility to win the BE tournament. I'll give my take anyway. It's going to be hard for UC to be a 5 seed because they normally seed 1-4 first. When they do that, I have a feeling that Syracuse, StJ, and Louisville will all fall on the 4 line. That essentially means that only 1 BE can realistically be a 5 seed regardless if the next 4 teams are all BE teams as well. At this point, I'd say Uconn or WV has a slight edge over UC for that spot. If its UConn, that pushes WV and UC to 6 seeds. The WV loss did help though, because if we can beat ND and Uconn loses to Pitt, we still have a chance to leap those teams and get them bumped down instead of us. Also, a deep run by Syracuse or Louisville could move them up off the 4 line. Or we can just go ahead and win the whole BET and let everybody else scramble for seeds.

03-10-2011, 11:03 AM	#9
Not Guilty Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 628	UC opens as a 1.5 point underdog.