2019-2020 Open Thread

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by Cataclysmo

Bahahahahahaha

Is this really that funny ?

We have some elite nationally respected bracketologist apart of this site, I’m sure they would agree that 7 tier 1 wins is better than 3


I didn’t say it would happen. I said if it did.

If we win out, I still don’t feel great because it only takes a few bid thief’s and the bubble shrinks again.

[cincrulz11]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

Is this really that funny ?

We have some elite nationally respected bracketologist apart of this site, I’m sure they would agree that 7 tier 1 wins is better than 3


I didn’t say it would happen. I said if it did.

If we win out, I still don’t feel great because it only takes a few bid thief’s and the bubble shrinks again.

if we win out we won't even be close to the bubble.

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by cincrulz11

if we win out we won't even be close to the bubble.

Disagree. If the bubble shrinks those tier 3 losses start to stick out

[Chance2017]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

Is this really that funny ?

We have some elite nationally respected bracketologist apart of this site, I’m sure they would agree that 7 tier 1 wins is better than 3


I didn’t say it would happen. I said if it did.

If we win out, I still don’t feel great because it only takes a few bid thief’s and the bubble shrinks again.

It's just funny to see you hypothesize if UCLA wins out...We could do that with a large number of Power 5 teams, but you just happen to pick them.

[cincrulz11]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

Disagree. If the bubble shrinks those tier 3 losses start to stick out

you can disagree all you want. if we win out we won't be close to the bubble. we're already sliding up toward a 10 seed, win out and we could be around an 8. thats nowhere near a bubble.

[justinhub2003]

Originally Posted by cincrulz11

you can disagree all you want. if we win out we won't be close to the bubble. we're already sliding up toward a 10 seed, win out and we could be around an 8. thats nowhere near a bubble.

I think a lot of our resume is dependent on other teams.

If Houston drops from top 30 , we lose a tier 1 win.

Walking in to selection Sunday with two tier 1 wins and 3 tier 3 losses, I don’t think you feel great.

[cincrulz11]

Originally Posted by justinhub2003

I think a lot of our resume is dependent on other teams.

If Houston drops from top 30 , we lose a tier 1 win.

Walking in to selection Sunday with two tier 1 wins and 3 tier 3 losses, I don’t think you feel great.

under that scenario what are we 10-0 against tier 2? im gonna feel pretty comfortable about 12-5 against tier 1 and 2. look at the bubble teams vs top 2 quads right now.

[skyblade]

Originally Posted by Chance2017

It's just funny to see you hypothesize if UCLA wins out...We could do that with a large number of Power 5 teams, but you just happen to pick them.

It's almost like there's some reason why we'd pick UCLA and not some random team. Maybe it's the same reason people early in the season were celebrating every UCLA loss.

From a non-Mick Cronin perspective, UCLA does seem more likely to win out than a random power-5 team of the same approximate kenpom ranking. Having a new coach takes time to adjust to (same is true of UC) and UCLA's defense in their last 9 games is much better than their defensive rating on the season. Assuming their defense continues to be as good as it has been recently (or improves even more), they are a quite a bit better team now than their kenpom and record indicates.

[sedziobs]

UCLA finishes the season with a much stronger schedule than most power-5 teams who are a little below the bubble. That's what you want if you're in their position. Even if they go 4-1 they will probably be in the bubble conversation. I think the most similar situation would be St Johns, who finishes with five consecutive top 25 games (all Q1). Providence or TCU would also have a case if they win out.

[justinhub2003]

I guess I just don't feel as confident as some of you do.

We are the only team in the field as an at large bid that has 3 tier 3 losses.



Literally no other team in the field currently has 3 tier 3 losses.


and when you look at first four out and next four out, I found just 1 team has 3 tier 3 losses and that's NC State

NC State has a winning record against tier 1 teams (4-3) and a 500 record against Tier 2 teams at 3-3

And they aren't even in the field



I mean, its strange to be so confident when we are the 100% clear outlier of all the teams currently in the field.


Im hoping the SOS pays dividends