2016 General Recruiting

[waterhead]

Originally Posted by culverrd

Exactly Noulowe is a Juco he would be taking up 2 years that isn't what we need unless he blows you away with potential and like Jacobkdoyle said Stansbury wasnt eligible this year. We need grad transfers who provide depth and quality practice bodies that dont take any 2017 scholys. No risk possible high reward guys that dont effect our 2017 recruiting class at all...
It shouldn't be that hard we dropped the ball on Bernard. Mack out recruited and grabbed him easy or we are just dumb to see that he is literally no risk whatsoever in signing him for a grad transfer year and who knows what he could bring to the team if its nothing and he gets no playing time who cares we probably will pocket the scholys like we do every freaking year and waste them...

IMO the biggest risk we are faced with right now is a lack of depth at the wing. Last year we had Cobb, Thomas and Evans all out at times with nagging injuries and some were out at the same time.

Just imagine if that were to happen this year (we only have 3 wings)?? I would take a juco wing in a heartbeat so that we are not 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster...ESPECIALLY knowing that we are not likely to fill all the 2017 schollies anyway given our recent history of carrying 10 or 11 players on the roster.

[BearcatSpaniard513]

Exactly, depth comes in many forms. Could have been a JUCO, a high schooler or a grad transfer. If we need depth for this year's team it didn't have to just be a grad transfer. There's only so many of them out there that could backup Evans and the 2016 class is tapped out...

You can't say the coaches dropped the ball. They're out there recruiting just like every other coach in America looking for the best talent available and the right fit. Because Norwood University ended up with some wing transfer from one of the worst teams in the country last year doesn't mean anything. We could have signed guys comparable to him and risked the defensive liability and hurting our already solid team chemistry. If a SF grad transfer happens to come up and is the right fit, we better call him up...

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by BearcatSpaniard513

Exactly, depth comes in many forms. Could have been a JUCO, a high schooler or a grad transfer. If we need depth for this year's team it didn't have to just be a grad transfer. There's only so many of them out there that could backup Evans and the 2016 class is tapped out...

You can't say the coaches dropped the ball. They're out there recruiting just like every other coach in America looking for the best talent available and the right fit. Because Norwood University ended up with some wing transfer from one of the worst teams in the country last year doesn't mean anything. We could have signed guys comparable to him and risked the defensive liability and hurting our already solid team chemistry. If a SF grad transfer happens to come up and is the right fit, we better call him up...

Hmm. Of course you can? They set out this spring to add help for this season. It hasn't happened. And we're short of where we want to be roster-wise.

[BearcatSpaniard513]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

Hmm. Of course you can? They set out this spring to add help for this season. It hasn't happened.

Did they do their jobs and bring players in for visits and evaluations this spring? Yes. Did the get the specific player you or they wanted? No. The world of recruiting doesn't always workout the way you want it to. They added the 8th leading scorer in the country last year and a 3 point ace for next season. We've already covered the loss of our only 2 departing seniors. I think they had a pretty solid off season so far and you'll be pleased with next year's class

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by BearcatSpaniard513

Did they do their jobs and bring players in for visits and evaluations this spring? Yes. Did the get the specific player you or they wanted? No. The world of recruiting doesn't always workout the way you want it to. They added the 8th leading scorer in the country last year and a 3 point ace for next season. We've already covered the loss of our only 2 departing seniors. I think they had a pretty solid off season so far and you'll be pleased with next year's class

They set out to add help for this upcoming season. They weren't able to do it. I really don't care why. The fact is it didn't get done. We're a player short of where we want to be. I'm sure Mick Cronin himself would tell you that.

[BearcatSpaniard513]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

They set out to add help for this upcoming season. They weren't able to do it. I really don't care why. The fact is it didn't get done. We're a player short of where we want to be. I'm sure Mick Cronin himself would tell you that.

I totally get what you're saying. I just choose to look at the beer as half full, not empty.

[coachpipe]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

They set out to add help for this upcoming season. They weren't able to do it. I really don't care why. The fact is it didn't get done. We're a player short of where we want to be. I'm sure Mick Cronin himself would tell you that.

Not landing a player doesnt mean they dropped the ball. They didnt find anyone they were interested in. You cant just be like, well so and so is available, pick him up. And when they dont get all pissed off because someone else signed a player the staff had zero interest in. Thats not how recruiting works. You have to find a fit, you cant force a player to be a fit. Is that disappointing, sure, but does it mean the staff failed? not really

If they would have added the kid Xavier did. By the time the season comes, fans would be yelling and screaming saying so-so shouldnt even be on the floor. Then you would have people saying things like. Quad could have done that, Or JJ could have done that, should have just put him in...

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by BearcatSpaniard513

I totally get what you're saying. I just choose to look at the beer as half full, not empty.

Fair enough. I'm just not big on excuses (as I'm sure you've noticed).

[#BearcatNation]

I don't get the worry about what Xavier is doing in regards to recruiting. I get the rival part, but all 3 of our new guys for this year (Cumberland, Washington, and Brooks) were all recruited by Xavier, and all 3 still chose UC. Can't act like they're blowing us out of the water.

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by coachpipe

Not landing a player doesnt mean they dropped the ball. They didnt find anyone they were interested in. You cant just be like, well so and so is available, pick him up. And when they dont get all pissed off because someone else signed a player the staff had zero interest in. Thats not how recruiting works. You have to find a fit, you cant force a player to be a fit. Is that disappointing, sure, but does it mean the staff failed? not really

If they would have added the kid Xavier did. By the time the season comes, fans would be yelling and screaming saying so-so shouldnt even be on the floor. Then you would have people saying things like. Quad could have done that, Or JJ could have done that, should have just put him in...

Maybe. I think we all know that we're not looking for a great player though. At some point, the staff failed to get the roster to 12 players. If it's too hard in the spring, then we need to do better in the fall to avoid being in this pinch. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but the reality is that we are a player short. Point to whatever you'd like, but the fact remains.