BE Post-Spring Position Rankings

JasonS · 05-17-2010, 07:15 PM

That's a position I don't worry too much about. It will pick up soon, especially once the season starts and everyone sees how our WRs dominate.

swg · 05-17-2010, 07:24 PM

I'm more concerned about defense. Offense will get you a bowl game, but defense gets you championships.

kpzero · 05-17-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by swg

I'm surprised the recruiting for WR is going so slow. That's one area that a recruit can point to and say that UC is going to pass for a ton of yardage, and I want to get some of that.

Give it a season for recruits to see Butch's offense and then we will start seeing some easier WR recruitment. They (hopefully) just need confirmation that we will still be a pass friendly offense.

swg · 05-17-2010, 09:37 PM

I'm wondering what it's going to take to convince the defensive recruits. The D has been pretty solid (aside from two games last year, not counting the bowl) last year. Shame that Grace didn't stay at home.

Tower · 05-18-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Danny

LOL at the comments by people who think Collaros is the fifth best QB in this league and that this team will be on the decline. What's even more funny is the Rutgers fans who did not learn from last year's 47-15 curbstomping that UC is legit.

Just curious - who is saying Collaros is the 5th best in the league ? Almost every article I read has him #1 in the BE...

Daniel Drake · 05-18-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tower

Just curious - who is saying Collaros is the 5th best in the league ? Almost every article I read has him #1 in the BE...

The comments under the article from dbag WVU fans and the like.

AAABearcat · 05-18-2010, 02:12 PM

http://collegefootballperformance.co...son-favorites/

This site has 3 Bearcats on their pre-season list; Colaros[QB], Guidugli[TE] and Rogers[Kick off specialist]; They use a statistical system
"OFFENSIVE AWARDS
The Offensive Awards system annually recognizes the FBS statistical performance champions at 4 positions: quarterback, running back, wide receiver, and tight end. The statistical performance champions at each position are determined based upon the extent to which a performer increases the overall effectiveness of that performer’s team. A performer x is an Offensive Awards recipient if and only if x contributes the most to team success of any performer in Division I FBS college football, when controlling for strength of schedule."

catman09 · 05-18-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AAABearcat

http://collegefootballperformance.co...son-favorites/

This site has 3 Bearcats on their pre-season list; Colaros[QB], Guidugli[TE] and Rogers[Kick off specialist]; They use a statistical system
"OFFENSIVE AWARDS
The Offensive Awards system annually recognizes the FBS statistical performance champions at 4 positions: quarterback, running back, wide receiver, and tight end. The statistical performance champions at each position are determined based upon the extent to which a performer increases the overall effectiveness of that performer’s team. A performer x is an Offensive Awards recipient if and only if x contributes the most to team success of any performer in Division I FBS college football, when controlling for strength of schedule."

Armon Binns is also listed

AAABearcat · 05-18-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by catman09

Armon Binns is also listed

Thanks, missed that.

JasonS · 05-19-2010, 02:51 PM

Time to get back to our post-spring position rankings, with running back next up. Remember, we're looking for stars and depth here:

1. Pittsburgh: The Panthers have the Big East's offensive player of the year returning in Dion Lewis, who rushed for 1,799 yards and 17 scores a year ago. Backup Ray Graham, who averaged 5.7 yards per carry, could start for most teams. Henry Hynoski should be the best fullback in the league this year. That's enough to merit the No. 1 spot here.

2. West Virginia: Noel Devine alone would earn the Mountaineers a lofty ranking. But don't forget about bruising fullback/tailback Ryan Clarke, who had eight touchdowns a year ago. Throw in Shawne Alston and Daquan Hargrett, and West Virginia is loaded in the backfield. And that's not even counting Tavon Austin and Jock Sanders, who are considered wide receivers for the purposes of these rankings but who could easily move into running back roles.

3. Connecticut: Jordan Todman (1,188 yards) was the third-leading rusher in the Big East last season. The Huskies are high on Meme Wylie and Robbie Frey, and Martin Hyppolite and Jonathan Jean-Louis could contribute. Fullback Anthony Sherman has 21 career starts. And that UConn offensive line always makes its ballcarriers look good.

4. Cincinnati: I think this is the year that Isaiah Pead takes off and becomes a real star. John Goebel's return adds experience to the backfield, while Darrin Williams is a playmaking spark plug. The only question is how much the Bearcats want to run the ball.

5. Syracuse: Uncertainty over Delone Carter's status -- he has been suspended at least until the fall semester -- makes the Orange a tough team to rank at running back. With Carter, who was a 1,000-yard back last year, Syracuse has a frontline workhorse plus two versatile guys in Antwon Bailey and Averin Collier. Without him, this unit is average at best.

6. Louisville: When healthy, Victor Anderson is one of the best backs in the Big East. He went over 1,000 yards and was the league's newcomer of the year in 2008. He was plagued by injuries last season and was still recovering this spring. If he's back to form, the Cardinals will have a solid trio with Bilal Powell and Jeremy Wright also in the mix. That doesn't count Darius Ashley, whose move to cornerback this spring may be permanent.

7. Rutgers: I put the Scarlet Knights this low despite the return of Joe Martinek, who nearly ran for 1,000 yards last year. But he was far from an explosive runner, and Rutgers averaged just 3.6 yards per carry last season (hurt, no doubt, by a subpar run-blocking offensive line). This backfield needs more playmakers, whether that's from an improved Martinek, a more experienced De'Antwan Williams or one of the speedy freshmen arriving this summer.

8. South Florida: The departure of Jamar Taylor was the latest setback to a position that lacks proven depth. The Bulls will begin the year with a starting tailback (Mo Plancher) who gained just 581 yards last season, and a backup (Demetris Murray) who has 14 career carries. On the flip side, South Florida running backs haven't been given much of a shot to establish themselves under the previous, quarterback-heavy offensive schemes. Perhaps that will change under Skip Holtz, who wants his backs to do more.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post...on-rankings-rb

05-18-2010, 02:12 PM	#17
AAABearcat Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 123	http://collegefootballperformance.co...son-favorites/ This site has 3 Bearcats on their pre-season list; Colaros[QB], Guidugli[TE] and Rogers[Kick off specialist]; They use a statistical system "OFFENSIVE AWARDS The Offensive Awards system annually recognizes the FBS statistical performance champions at 4 positions: quarterback, running back, wide receiver, and tight end. The statistical performance champions at each position are determined based upon the extent to which a performer increases the overall effectiveness of that performer’s team. A performer x is an Offensive Awards recipient if and only if x contributes the most to team success of any performer in Division I FBS college football, when controlling for strength of schedule." Last edited by AAABearcat; 05-18-2010 at 02:15 PM.

05-19-2010, 02:51 PM	#20
JasonS Football Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,181	Post-Spring Position Rankings: Running Backs Time to get back to our post-spring position rankings, with running back next up. Remember, we're looking for stars and depth here: 1. Pittsburgh: The Panthers have the Big East's offensive player of the year returning in Dion Lewis, who rushed for 1,799 yards and 17 scores a year ago. Backup Ray Graham, who averaged 5.7 yards per carry, could start for most teams. Henry Hynoski should be the best fullback in the league this year. That's enough to merit the No. 1 spot here. 2. West Virginia: Noel Devine alone would earn the Mountaineers a lofty ranking. But don't forget about bruising fullback/tailback Ryan Clarke, who had eight touchdowns a year ago. Throw in Shawne Alston and Daquan Hargrett, and West Virginia is loaded in the backfield. And that's not even counting Tavon Austin and Jock Sanders, who are considered wide receivers for the purposes of these rankings but who could easily move into running back roles. 3. Connecticut: Jordan Todman (1,188 yards) was the third-leading rusher in the Big East last season. The Huskies are high on Meme Wylie and Robbie Frey, and Martin Hyppolite and Jonathan Jean-Louis could contribute. Fullback Anthony Sherman has 21 career starts. And that UConn offensive line always makes its ballcarriers look good. 4. Cincinnati: I think this is the year that Isaiah Pead takes off and becomes a real star. John Goebel's return adds experience to the backfield, while Darrin Williams is a playmaking spark plug. The only question is how much the Bearcats want to run the ball. 5. Syracuse: Uncertainty over Delone Carter's status -- he has been suspended at least until the fall semester -- makes the Orange a tough team to rank at running back. With Carter, who was a 1,000-yard back last year, Syracuse has a frontline workhorse plus two versatile guys in Antwon Bailey and Averin Collier. Without him, this unit is average at best. 6. Louisville: When healthy, Victor Anderson is one of the best backs in the Big East. He went over 1,000 yards and was the league's newcomer of the year in 2008. He was plagued by injuries last season and was still recovering this spring. If he's back to form, the Cardinals will have a solid trio with Bilal Powell and Jeremy Wright also in the mix. That doesn't count Darius Ashley, whose move to cornerback this spring may be permanent. 7. Rutgers: I put the Scarlet Knights this low despite the return of Joe Martinek, who nearly ran for 1,000 yards last year. But he was far from an explosive runner, and Rutgers averaged just 3.6 yards per carry last season (hurt, no doubt, by a subpar run-blocking offensive line). This backfield needs more playmakers, whether that's from an improved Martinek, a more experienced De'Antwan Williams or one of the speedy freshmen arriving this summer. 8. South Florida: The departure of Jamar Taylor was the latest setback to a position that lacks proven depth. The Bulls will begin the year with a starting tailback (Mo Plancher) who gained just 581 yards last season, and a backup (Demetris Murray) who has 14 career carries. On the flip side, South Florida running backs haven't been given much of a shot to establish themselves under the previous, quarterback-heavy offensive schemes. Perhaps that will change under Skip Holtz, who wants his backs to do more. http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post...on-rankings-rb

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05-17-2010, 07:15 PM	#11
JasonS Football Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,181	That's a position I don't worry too much about. It will pick up soon, especially once the season starts and everyone sees how our WRs dominate.

05-17-2010, 07:24 PM	#12
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	I'm more concerned about defense. Offense will get you a bowl game, but defense gets you championships.

05-17-2010, 09:37 PM	#14
swg Epic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,155	I'm wondering what it's going to take to convince the defensive recruits. The D has been pretty solid (aside from two games last year, not counting the bowl) last year. Shame that Grace didn't stay at home.