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Old 02-13-2020, 03:17 PM   #21
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Kenpom is irrelevant. You need to look at whatever the committee was using on their team sheets that year (NET or RPI). VCU lost two Q3 games in the regular season and then one in the conference tournament. That's still considered by the committee.
I’m comparing what’s relevant to UC as it stands today. 3 regular season losses.

And I’m looking at Miami which you have listed in 2016... and they were 15 in kenpom with 1 loss outside the top 75
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Like your teams don’t have correlation to UC at all.

You listed Kentucky in 2016

They lost 1 tier 3 game in kenpom’s and it was to auburn

The rest of their losses aren’t bad at all

They don’t have losses to teams like BGU, Colgate and tulane.
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Old 02-13-2020, 03:22 PM   #23
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You're asking about our tournament chances, which takes into account the full season.

Miami lost to #114 Northeastern, #119 NC St, and #127 Clemson in 2016. Those were all tier 3 per 2016 criteria.

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Old 02-13-2020, 03:24 PM   #24
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NET is what the committee uses today. The rankings are available. There's no reason not to use them. RPI quadrant records are available before that. Your point is about tier 3/4 losses. The definition of what qualifies is determined by the committee. Use that definition.
Nonsense
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Old 02-13-2020, 03:25 PM   #25
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It amazes me the great lengths you go to to argue against facts. I simply supplied a list of all at-large teams with 3+ Q3/Q4 losses. Those are facts. It's not up for debate. You can't disqualify them because they are big name schools, were in the conference tournament, or were better in Kenpom.

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Old 02-13-2020, 03:27 PM   #26
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Like your teams don’t have correlation to UC at all.

You listed Kentucky in 2016

They lost 1 tier 3 game in kenpom’s and it was to auburn

The rest of their losses aren’t bad at all

They don’t have losses to teams like BGU, Colgate and tulane.
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Old 02-13-2020, 03:27 PM   #27
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In 2016, Kentucky lost to #110 UCLA, #142 Tennessee, and #179 Auburn. All of them had losing records. Tennessee and Auburn lost at least 19 games. 2020 Colgate and Bowling Green are better than them.
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It amazes me the great lengths you go to to to argue against facts. I simply supplied a list of all at-large teams with 3+ Q1/Q2 losses. Those are facts. It's not up for debate. You can't disqualify them because they are big name schools, were in the conference tournament, or were better in Kenpom.
Huh


I said teams with 3 tier 3 losses or more
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In 2016, Kentucky lost to #110 UCLA, #142 Tennessee, and #179 Auburn. All of them had losing records. Tennessee and Auburn lost at least 19 games. 2020 Colgate and Bowling Green are better than them.
UCLA was a road game.

That’s not tier 3

They were also 69 in kenpom.

Shows you how horrible RPI is.
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Huh
I said teams with 3 tier 3 losses or more
Thanks, I fixed it
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