Xavier

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I will say this. TOSU would never retain a coach who gets beat by its biggest rival as often as we do. I gave Mick a pass for the early years but Mack is kicking his tail in his own back yard. If he can not regain our status in our city it may be time for a change.

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

you and Mick have a different opinion of what will work best for this group. If your unhappy with his game plans I suggest you call Bohn. The one thing I will say is Mick is responsible for the talent. If he can not recruit people to win it may be time for a change. That should be decided at years end not now.

Mick gets good players. Just not players that fit into the style he is hellbent on playing. Jmo.

[WAITE HOYT 2]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

Mick gets good players. Just not players that fit into the style he is hellbent on playing. Jmo.

anyone going D-1 is a good player. To beat top 10 teams and be a factor nationally we need better players. Changing his style requires better players. Your point is we can not win with this style that is not true. I could show you stats that will say different. He can not win with his players because they are not good enough. We were out manned against X.

[indydoug]

Originally Posted by Bearcat_NTS

Cincinnati had 17 assists on 21 field goals. Xavier only had 14 assists.

So are you honestly saying you think UC is a better passing team than XU?

[WAITE HOYT 2]

I have been a big supporter of Mick's since day one. He has taken the program and moved it forward. But if he can not be the top program in his own city it may be time to move forward with some one else. Can't reign nationally if you can't dominate in your city.

[Bearcat_NTS]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

we have some strengths but we also have some glaring weaknesses.

Currently, our major weakness is on the bench. He has to have some master plan because he's been off all year. Jenifer and Evans need to play more, particularly to give Troy a rest.

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

I have been a big supporter of Mick's since day one. He has taken the program and moved it forward. But if he can not be the top program in his own city it may be time to move forward with some one else. Can't reign nationally if you can't dominate in your city.

This is a heartbreaking post. But I do agree.

[jds513]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

I'm just worried that the longer Jenifer sits, the more he becomes like Mick's version of a Bearcat...which is like everyone else we've seen. Making players change their game to fit a certain style is foolish. If you can't live with Jenifer making an error of commission, don't recruit him.

Watching Mack's post game, he mentioned that the reason he recruited Sumner was not to be a Trent Dilfer. Not to just manage the offense. But to be a playmaker, therefore he has to give him some sort of leash. Why can Mick not see things like this.

[jacobkdoyle]

Originally Posted by WAITE HOYT 2

anyone going D-1 is a good player. To beat top 10 teams and be a factor nationally we need better players. Changing his style requires better players. Your point is we can not win with this style that is not true. I could show you stats that will say different. He can not win with his players because they are not good enough. We were out manned against X.

After 10 years of watching Mick teams, I think it is.

[Bearcat_NTS]

Originally Posted by jacobkdoyle

This is a heartbreaking post. But I do agree.

Let the season play out first. I do agree that his coaching of this particular team has been poor. BTW Louisville has been dominated by Kentucky since Cal got there but they seem fine nationally.